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[Crampknees]

14 hours ago, Redondo said:

@Taylor

You're okay with taking the lords name in vain?

Dude seriously, it's a meme with Jules Winnfield. That man is very religious.  Seriously acting all God like when your daily ministering to people is sharing comics and links all about hating on something and dividing us.  This is a big issue with me. 

[Tank]

8 hours ago, Taylor said:

It's not a word I would use personally.

I would say that your steadfast and enthusiastic support of Donald Trump, someone who is the opposite of Jesus Christ in every way, is far more offensive to God than a GIF.

good grief, taylor. 

[Kotchman]

1 hour ago, Crampknees said:

Dude seriously, it's a meme with Jules Winnfield. That man is very religious.  Seriously acting all God like when your daily ministering to people is sharing comics and links all about hating on something and dividing us.  This is a big issue with me. 

I don’t know Taylor’s heart to judge him. I do know his political beliefs and progressive distortion of the Bible aren’t correct. He isn’t alone as the modern day church has caved more than the country. As far as redondo dividing us that’s just bs. You’ve basically become a woman at 65. You don’t even know what you want in life. 

[Crampknees]

1 hour ago, Kotchman said:

I don’t know Taylor’s heart to judge him. I do know his political beliefs and progressive distortion of the Bible aren’t correct. He isn’t alone as the modern day church has caved more than the country. As far as redondo dividing us that’s just bs. You’ve basically become a woman at 65. You don’t even know what you want in life. 

Fuck off.  What I know I want is never be as stupid as you.  Now Git. 

[Taylor]

2 hours ago, Tank said:

good grief, taylor. 

I've learned my lesson. I won't post any more GIFs or memes with that word. I genuinely apologize if I offended you. 

Serious question. I've noticed you often say a lot of objectifying things about women, like Kate Upton. Almost like you're openly lusting after these women who are half your age. How do you square that with Matthew 5:27-28?

[St1ck]

Apparently Redondo and Tank watched the Mormon edited version of Pulp Fiction.

[Taylor]

And my point about Trump isn't a deflection. Those of you in the 50s/60s age range who are wondering why young people have left the church in droves, it's because of the blatant hypocrisy we've observed in the marriage of Christianity and right-wing politics. Trump was the final straw for many of us.

I'm still a Christian, although my faith has certainly evolved to be more inclusive and forward-thinking. But for many of the people in my age bracket who grew up in the church, the gleeful and utilitarian support of Trump, someone who lacks any semblance of character, was the final straw for those of us who were still clinging to hope in the institution of the American church, the Republican party, and conservatism in general.

I know what you're going to say. "What about Democrats and abortion etc." Just because we reject Trump and conservatism doesn't mean we put on blue hats and attend Biden rallies. We just can't stomach the fearmongering and marginalization that defines the conservative movement.

[cals]

To be fair I think you’re all fucking morons, so you should be happy you all have that in common.

[Kotchman]

1 hour ago, Taylor said:

And my point about Trump isn't a deflection. Those of you in the 50s/60s age range who are wondering why young people have left the church in droves, it's because of the blatant hypocrisy we've observed in the marriage of Christianity and right-wing politics. Trump was the final straw for many of us.

I'm still a Christian, although my faith has certainly evolved to be more inclusive and forward-thinking. But for many of the people in my age bracket who grew up in the church, the gleeful and utilitarian support of Trump, someone who lacks any semblance of character, was the final straw for those of us who were still clinging to hope in the institution of the American church, the Republican party, and conservatism in general.

I know what you're going to say. "What about Democrats and abortion etc." Just because we reject Trump and conservatism doesn't mean we put on blue hats and attend Biden rallies. We just can't stomach the fearmongering and marginalization that defines the conservative movement.

You certainly aren’t wrong that many churches are full of hypocrites. Hell I was the dude a lot of church going Baptist forbid their daughters to date and I was the subject of a lot of gossip. Never mind that I didn’t drink do drugs and spent most of my free time working and on the court. I guess I was guilty of having a filthy mouth and skirt chasing but I wasn’t close to the worst kid in hs. Later on I would become a drunk as alcohol really filled the void left when I stopped playing. Yes it’s irritating when I knew these same adults and their kids were thieves and cheating on their wives. Their prized daughters that I wasn’t good enough for had already give it up to half the team. I had to learn that these people aren’t the standard and their shortcomings isn’t my problem. 
jerry Falwell jr having a three way with the pool boy does harm the church but it doesn’t change Gods law. I don’t blame Jesus for Jerry being a jackass or try to legitimize Jerry’s actions. The modern day progressive church see abortion and butt sex as socially acceptable and feels the need to bend or distort Gods laws for public affirmation. The secular world tricks a lot of people in demanding perfection from Christianity while ignoring just how significantly more evil secularist have been. 

 

[gotbeer]

I'm still trying to figure out what set everyone off?  Is this really over Buddy Christ?

[Jason]

1 minute ago, gotbeer said:

I'm still trying to figure out what set everyone off?  Is this really over Buddy Christ?

Yep

[Blarg]

2 hours ago, Taylor said:

I've learned my lesson. I won't post any more GIFs or memes with that word. I genuinely apologize if I offended you. 

Serious question. I've noticed you often say a lot of objectifying things about women, like Kate Upton. Almost like you're openly lusting after these women who are half your age. How do you square that with Matthew 5:27-28?

I guess the same way Jimmy Carter did. 

[Taylor]

7 minutes ago, Blarg said:

I guess the same way Jimmy Carter did. 

I'm sure Tank is thrilled to be compared to Jimmy Carter.

[St1ck]

57 minutes ago, gotbeer said:

I'm still trying to figure out what set everyone off?  Is this really over Buddy Christ?

Redondo got his jimmies rustled because he's not allowed to watch R rated movies. 

[Tank]

2 hours ago, Taylor said:

I've learned my lesson. I won't post any more GIFs or memes with that word. I genuinely apologize if I offended you. 

Serious question. I've noticed you often say a lot of objectifying things about women, like Kate Upton. Almost like you're openly lusting after these women who are half your age. How do you square that with Matthew 5:27-28?

you have a way of apologizing that sounds a lot like "okay, but what about those guys?"

like a lot of what i post in the hangout forum, i'm going for the laugh. and while i appreciate a beautiful woman, it was never intended to be anything more than that.

[Taylor]

7 minutes ago, Tank said:

you have a way of apologizing that sounds a lot like "okay, but what about those guys?"

like a lot of what i post in the hangout forum, i'm going for the laugh. and while i appreciate a beautiful woman, it was never intended to be anything more than that.

And my GIF was intended just for laughs. We post a lot of crap here that is just intended for laughs, much of it is irreverent. Like your "large beaver" joke in the Random Pics thread today. I don't see how that's any different than sharing a GIF of a famous movie clip with a curse word in it.

I'm sorry to use a whataboutism. But how else am I supposed to respond to personal attacks on my faith? Not on my ideas, or opinions, but the aspect of my life that is the most important to me.

[Taylor]

1 hour ago, gotbeer said:

I'm still trying to figure out what set everyone off?  Is this really over Buddy Christ?

My magical powers allow me to edit posts without it saying "Taylor edited this post." I had originally shared a GIF of Samuel L. Jackson's character from Pulp Fiction using a word that some folks believe violates the Third Commandment.

[Tank]

3 hours ago, Taylor said:

And my point about Trump isn't a deflection. Those of you in the 50s/60s age range who are wondering why young people have left the church in droves, it's because of the blatant hypocrisy we've observed in the marriage of Christianity and right-wing politics. Trump was the final straw for many of us.

I'm still a Christian, although my faith has certainly evolved to be more inclusive and forward-thinking. But for many of the people in my age bracket who grew up in the church, the gleeful and utilitarian support of Trump, someone who lacks any semblance of character, was the final straw for those of us who were still clinging to hope in the institution of the American church, the Republican party, and conservatism in general.

I know what you're going to say. "What about Democrats and abortion etc." Just because we reject Trump and conservatism doesn't mean we put on blue hats and attend Biden rallies. We just can't stomach the fearmongering and marginalization that defines the conservative movement.

fwiw, in my experience when people leave the church, one of the factors is that they are paying too much attention to other people and not enough attention to Jesus.

one of the things i like about the Adventist church is that we aren't political - no sermons about candidates or how to vote, no proclamations from church headquarters about how they think we should vote on certain issues or candidates, none of that. during the campaign, if i had a conversation with anyone about politics, it was always private, and i think that's the way it ought to be (but even more, i'd prefer it not be discussed at church at all because it's a secondary issue for why we're meeting in the first place). 

i think it's been a big mistake for churches in your scenario to take up the mantle of trump like he was a savior. i don't understand how so many could look past his character issues and support him so vigorously, especially church groups. and if it's driven congregants out of the building, that lesson should not go unnoticed. 

as a Christian, i find it harder and harder to vote for candidates these days. whether they seem hungry for power or have character issues makes most of them unappealing to me. 2020 was the first time as a voter that i left my ballot blank for president, and i wouldn't have a problem doing that again. i'll continue to vote on issues.

[cals]

I love how Taylor is being judged and shamed by other Christians.  

[Taylor]

11 minutes ago, Tank said:

fwiw, in my experience when people leave the church, one of the factors is that they are paying too much attention to other people and not enough attention to Jesus.

one of the things i like about the Adventist church is that we aren't political - no sermons about candidates or how to vote, no proclamations from church headquarters about how they think we should vote on certain issues or candidates, none of that. during the campaign, if i had a conversation with anyone about politics, it was always private, and i think that's the way it ought to be (but even more, i'd prefer it not be discussed at church at all because it's a secondary issue for why we're meeting in the first place). 

i think it's been a big mistake for churches in your scenario to take up the mantle of trump like he was a savior. i don't understand how so many could look past his character issues and support him so vigorously, especially church groups. and if it's driven congregants out of the building, that lesson should not go unnoticed. 

as a Christian, i find it harder and harder to vote for candidates these days. whether they seem hungry for power or have character issues makes most of them unappealing to me. 2020 was the first time as a voter that i left my ballot blank for president, and i wouldn't have a problem doing that again. i'll continue to vote on issues.

I appreciate your more nuanced understanding of this. And I agree that churches need to stay out of politics, unless politics have already entered the church. For example, Trump evoking Christianity to distract from his character flaws and to incorrectly support some of his more egregious ideas. In those cases, pastors with platforms need to call out the false prophet or at the very least caution their congregation about putting their faith in someone who has shown no evidence in his life of taking up the cross.

It goes deeper than the church and church leaders, though. Many of us have family members, friends, and other people we respect who use Christian language to defend Trump and some of the more extreme ideas the conservative movement has come to embrace. It's not about small government vs. big government anymore.

[Jason]

23 minutes ago, Taylor said:

My magical powers allow me to edit posts without it saying "Taylor edited this post." I had originally shared a GIF of Samuel L. Jackson's character from Pulp Fiction using a word that some folks believe violates the Third Commandment.

I don’t believe using the lord’s name in vain is as simple as saying GD. That’s no different than saying “Oh my God” or “Thank God”. That’s just part of our daily speech and vocabulary. Most people do that without thinking and aren’t serious with those statements. Using his name in vain is more about professing that you are believer then living your life completely opposite of how a believer should live. 

Edited December 15, 2022 by Jason

[Jason]

Evangelists that use the Christian label just to take people’s money for their selfish gain would be a good example of this. It happens a lot too 

[Jason]

Any updates on Elon and Twitter today?

[Kotchman]

25 minutes ago, cals said:

I love how Taylor is being judged and shamed by other Christians.  

I wasn’t trying to shame him but I do question his willingness to ignore and twist scripture that he certainly comprehends. My wife would ask me how the Sunday school teacher could vote for obama. He was Hispanic and not politically savvy. I told her he was a good dude that in time he would discover the truth. By 2014 he saw the light and no longer supports dems. 
taylor seems to be the reverse of this situation. I can’t see a man losing his faith over the shortcomings of church members and basically leave the faith. He does a 180 puts his faith in democratic socialism which is based on the idea that socialism isn’t failed policy rather it’s never properly been implemented. I mean Hitler, Stalin, and Mao don’t invalidate Marxism but a Christian Trump voter permanently scare Christianity? Occasionally my wife stares too long at Tom Brady on Sundays but I haven’t filed for divorce. 

[Taylor]

53 minutes ago, Jason said:

I don’t believe using the lord’s name in vain is as simple as saying GD. That’s no different than saying “Oh my God” or “Thank God”. That’s just part of our daily speech and vocabulary. Most people do that without thinking and aren’t serious with those statements. Using his name in vain is more about professing that you are believer then living your life completely opposite of how a believer should live. 

Yep. It's not my favorite word but I think God can handle it. His ego isn't fragile.