Official 2021-22 Hot Stove League Thread.

[bloodbrother]

Just now, totdprods said:

Really hard to address other needs - specifically closer - if you sign Scherzer to 3/$130m. 

I'd rather have Ray and a good closer than Scherzer and fuck all.

I get it, but if Arte is gearing up to go over the threshold, this shouldn't be much of a concern either way.

[Angel Oracle]

13 minutes ago, ten ocho recon scout said:

Sign Ray, bring back Iglesias, and its still a good offseason.

And trade for Stallings and Kim

[ten ocho recon scout]

Ray, Iglesias, and Correa, watch.

[Inside Pitch]

1 minute ago, ten ocho recon scout said:

If that happened we'd all cream our jeans, but it wont, sadly

I'd rather sign someone and not be in the same situation we are now only in need of a OFer and another pitcher next winter.  But I'm sure Arte is more willing to go full Dipoto.

[totdprods]

1 minute ago, bloodbrother said:

I get it, but if Arte is gearing up to go over the threshold, this shouldn't be much of a concern either way.

Well, one, going over the luxury tax threshold has apparently not been the main issue, it was maintaining the year-to-year budget. 

Going over the budget is one thing by a few million or so is one thing, going over the budget well over $25m+ is another. 

Even after another SP and a CL, regardless of what route they take, they need to address other needs (even if cheaply) and have future payrolls and contracts to manage and dole out. It's not going over budget opens up an unwieldly amount.

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[EdmontonAngelsFan]

 

[eligrba]

38 minutes ago, AngelsFanSince86 said:

Honestly though, that's how most of these things play out. When was the last time someone said, "hmm... Thought he would have signed for more" about a top tier pitcher. If you want one you need to overpay. 

I've been a little iffy on Scherzer because of his age, but if you were confident in him and he was your top target then you should absolutely overpay if it gets him to sign. 

I agree, but I can't help but remember Scherzer refusing to pitch in the biggest game of the playoffs at the last minute.  The Angels need a guy who isn't afraid to pitch and knows how to pitch when things aren't perfect.

[ten ocho recon scout]

5 minutes ago, Inside Pitch said:

I'd rather sign someone and not be in the same situation we are now only in need of a OFer and another pitcher next winter.  But I'm sure Arte is more willing to go full Dipoto.

 

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[totdprods]

11 minutes ago, mmc said:

 

Didn't realize Raley was a FA, he could've been a good add. Of course the Rays knew this.

We actually had him in the farm a couple seasons back. The Astros found a way to get more from him.

[jsnpritchett]

 

[Biergott]

1 minute ago, jsnpritchett said:

 

Yay!  First Losers again!

 

(all jokes aside that contract is ridonkulous)

Edited November 29, 2021 by Biergott

[angelsnationtalk]

Just now, jsnpritchett said:

 

I'd imagine they offered around the $35M AAV range. Which to me means that Arte is willing to spend more this offseason.

[Stradling]

Tells me they were willing to go over the threshold for “the right guy”.  

[ten ocho recon scout]

27 minutes ago, Inside Pitch said:

I'd rather sign someone and not be in the same situation we are now only in need of a OFer and another pitcher next winter.  But I'm sure Arte is more willing to go full Dipoto.

Minasian, hearing your concerns, showing you the Lorenzen deal in the cage

 

[Inside Pitch]

13 minutes ago, totdprods said:

Didn't realize Raley was a FA, he could've been a good add. Of course the Rays knew this.

We actually had him in the farm a couple seasons back. The Astros found a way to get more from him.

The five years in Korea were a bigger factor than anything Houston did, he was a finished product when they got him.  Raley had the unfortunate reality of being a SP in SLC....  The numbers are always inflated, the breaking balls don't always break.  

I hate that park.

[ten ocho recon scout]

Again, grab Ray and Iglesias, find an obscure guy none of us are thinking about for C, and its still a good off season

[eligrba]

2 minutes ago, ten ocho recon scout said:

Again, grab Ray and Iglesias, find an obscure guy none of us are thinking about for C, and its still a good off season

Have you told this to @Tank?

[Inside Pitch]

8 minutes ago, jsnpritchett said:

 

[UndertheHalo]

Angels sign Javy Baez incoming 

[Inside Pitch]

1 minute ago, eligrba said:

Have you told this to @Tank?

Tank is busy meeting with the green beans people all week.

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[zenmaster]

Mets payroll currently at $267M and likely will surpass $300M before it’s all said done. I guess Cohen really is willing to spend whatever it takes.