Official 2021-22 Hot Stove League Thread.

[jordan]

All the non conclusive tweets by the big reporters are setting things up for a team to come in a swoop Scherzer away from the Mets.   

Edited November 29, 2021 by jordan

[rottiesworld]

Arte just needs to sell the team, us fans go through this crap every season and tired of it. The fans spend money to see the team but yet he never wants to spend money that will take him over the budget or has to pay a fine. They have uptons contract that expire next season and will be over for 1 year. 
 

[Warfarin]

Just now, rottiesworld said:

Arte just needs to sell the team, us fans go through this crap every season and tired of it. The fans spend money to see the team but yet he never wants to spend money that will take him over the budget or has to pay a fine. They have uptons contract that expire next season and will be over for 1 year. 
 

For all those who are upset, I mean, we did just sign Syndergaard.  Syndergaard, in terms of stuff, is probably better than every FA SP out there with the exception of Scherzer.

[eligrba]

11 minutes ago, CanadianHalo said:

Do people really think that rotation gets this team to the playoffs?

Does MLB have an NIT option?

[rafibomb]

 

[eligrba]

3 minutes ago, halonatic13 said:

amazing what u can do as a GM with an owner who "likes" to spend.

Counter point.....The Mets just keep getting older with an owner who likes to spend.

[bloodbrother]

2 minutes ago, rafibomb said:

 

Johnny Cueto on a 1yr deal coming up

[jsnpritchett]

3 minutes ago, Warfarin said:

For all those who are upset, I mean, we did just sign Syndergaard.  Syndergaard, in terms of stuff, is probably better than every FA SP out there with the exception of Scherzer.

...to a one-year deal, just like Lorenzen.  Same pattern as the last few years. 

[Warfarin]

Just now, eligrba said:

Counter point.....The Mets just keep getting older with an owner who likes to spend.

If they sign Scherzer to a 4 year deal, they'll be paying him 35+ mil in his age 40/41 season.  Don't think I'd do that.

[jsnpritchett]

Just now, bloodbrother said:

Johnny Cueto on a 1yr deal coming up

[Jason]

3 minutes ago, rafibomb said:

 

That’s unless the Halos are done shopping 

[Warfarin]

Just now, jsnpritchett said:

...to a one-year deal, just like Lorenzen.  Same pattern as the last few years. 

Truth be told, I'd prefer Syndergaard on a one year deal than Gausman on a 5 year deal or Gray on a 4 year deal.

[jsnpritchett]

1 minute ago, Warfarin said:

Truth be told, I'd prefer Syndergaard on a one year deal than Gausman on a 5 year deal or Gray on a 4 year deal.

I don't necessarily disagree with you, but at some point, you need to have some stability and consistency on your staff.  Betting on essentially random guys to magically have good years hasn't exactly worked out well for them so far.

[m0nkey]

Jesus I had dinner with my parents and apparently the season is over by the time I come back? 

[Stradling]

20 minutes ago, CanadianHalo said:

Do people really think that rotation gets this team to the playoffs?

You don’t think we get to the playoffs with that rotation?  Really?  

[Warfarin]

1 minute ago, jsnpritchett said:

I don't necessarily disagree with you, but at some point, you need to have some stability and consistency on your staff.  Betting on essentially random guys to magically have good years hasn't exactly worked out well for them so far.

I agree with the idea in principle, but for someone like Syndergaard, I love the high upside move.

Ideally though, what you are looking for (stability and consistency) should mainly be coming from young, controllable SPs that you have developed as prospects (or acquired in a trade).  We now have one in Ohtani, and hopefully, we will soon have multiple others.

[rottiesworld]

8 minutes ago, Warfarin said:

For all those who are upset, I mean, we did just sign Syndergaard.  Syndergaard, in terms of stuff, is probably better than every FA SP out there with the exception of Scherzer.

If he stays healthy which we don’t know or does he have a set back.

[jsnpritchett]

 

[eligrba]

6 minutes ago, Warfarin said:

If they sign Scherzer to a 4 year deal, they'll be paying him 35+ mil in his age 40/41 season.  Don't think I'd do that.

And the Mets will be paying 82 million for the next two years for players older than 33.  You go Billy!

[CanadianHalo]

Just now, Stradling said:

You don’t think we get to the playoffs with that rotation?  Really?  

Nope.

We do this every year Strad. We need two more legit starters. Ray/Stroman and a trade for Sonny Gray would play. But that up there, nah.

[Warfarin]

1 minute ago, rottiesworld said:

If he stays healthy which we don’t know or does he have a set back.

This is true for basically every SP. Scherzer just had his season finished because he couldn't get his arm loose to start a playoff game.  Yet he's 37 and about to get a 3-4 year deal with an AAV around 40mil.

[Stradling]

1 minute ago, CanadianHalo said:

Nope.

We do this every year Strad. We need two more legit starters. Ray/Stroman and a trade for Sonny Gray would play. But that up there, nah.

Well I believe Ray/Noah/Sandoval and Ohtani is a great rotation.

[mmc]

 

[CanadianHalo]

Mets get Max god damn.

Im guessing NOW we sign Ray

[eligrba]

6 minutes ago, jsnpritchett said:

I don't necessarily disagree with you, but at some point, you need to have some stability and consistency on your staff.  Betting on essentially random guys to magically have good years hasn't exactly worked out well for them so far.

Completely agree.  Either Minasian failed in convincing Arte this is crucial or Minasian has a different plan.  I will admit, one year contracts for pitchers worked well for the Giants.