Who was better? Tim Salmon or Garret Anderson

[Bronson]

2 hours ago, Chuckster70 said:

Crazy that in hella less at bats and games played, Mike Trout has a higher WAR than both Tim Salmon and Garret Anderson. 

 

Not that crazy.... Tim Salmon and Garrett Anderson are not even on the same planet talent wise as Mike. Mike is gonna go down as a top 10 player of all time. That’s like saying it’s crazy Willie Mays has a better WAR then Salmon and Anderson.

[Chuck]

29 minutes ago, Bronson said:

Not that crazy.... Tim Salmon and Garrett Anderson are not even on the same planet talent wise as Mike. Mike is gonna go down as a top 10 player of all time. That’s like saying it’s crazy Willie Mays has a better WAR then Salmon and Anderson.

It's crazy that a human can best two really good players WAR in less at bats and games played. That's what's nuts IMO.

[Bronson]

3 minutes ago, Chuckster70 said:

It's crazy that a human can best two really good players WAR in less at bats and games played. That's what's nuts IMO.

Yeah I get it but it’s Mike Trout.. this is why he might go down as the greatest ever. So that’s why I’m really not surprised.

[eligrba4ever]

On the one hand, Salmon was better. But on the other hand, Anderson was better. 

Silly question. Ya had to BE there.

[jsnpritchett]

1 hour ago, Bronson said:

Garrett Anderson had the best individual season out of the two but Salmon had a better overall career.

Which year of GA's was better than Salmon's 1995?

[ten ocho recon scout]

Just now, jsnpritchett said:

Which year of GA's was better than Salmon's 1995?

The one where he made the all star team

 

 

 

 

#allstarburn

Or in Lou talk, face.

[ten ocho recon scout]

And to be clear, I hope everyone knows that was sarcasm

[Bronson]

18 minutes ago, jsnpritchett said:

Which year of GA's was better than Salmon's 1995?

Damn I forgot how beastly he was in 95.... Nevermind then. Lol

 

[AngelsLakersFan]

GA is a great example of how our eyes can often deceive us from the reality of the game. He has 855 more career hits than Salmon. That's nearly 1000 more times fans were reminded of his talent. Less memorable were the nearly 2000 additional outs he made. GA was better at staying on the field but not much else.

[m0nkey]

4 hours ago, Chuckster70 said:

Crazy that in hella less at bats and games played, Mike Trout has a higher WAR than both Tim Salmon and Garret Anderson. 

 

Combined!

[Bronson]

8 minutes ago, m0nkey said:

Combined!

He said combined. Tim Salmon AND Garret Anderson.

[Bronson]

@jsnpritchett can you imagine if Salmon played his whole career like he did in 95? First ballot HOF’er.

[jsnpritchett]

15 minutes ago, AngelsLakersFan said:

GA is a great example of how our eyes can often deceive us from the reality of the game. He has 855 more career hits than Salmon. That's nearly 1000 more times fans were reminded of his talent. Less memorable were the nearly 2000 additional outs he made. GA was better at staying on the field but not much else.

Salmon had 541 more walks and 59 more HBP than GA, which closes a ton of that hit-gap in terms of the broader sense of getting on base--which Timmy obviously excelled at.

[AngelsLakersFan]

7 minutes ago, jsnpritchett said:

Salmon had 541 more walks and 59 more HBP than GA, which closes a ton of that hit-gap in terms of the broader sense of getting on base--which Timmy obviously excelled at.

Yes, walks an hit by pitch aren’t all that exciting though. 2000 additional outs in exchange for a couple hundred more times on base is a terrible trade off.

[Dtwncbad]

Who was better?  Ask Tawni Kittaen.

[PattyD22]

9 minutes ago, Dtwncbad said:

Who was better?  Ask Tawni Kittaen.

I thought she was more of a Chuck Finley fan.

 

At least she was at one point.....

[Dtwncbad]

21 minutes ago, PattyD22 said:

I thought she was more of a Chuck Finley fan.

 

At least she was at one point.....

Chuck was the ace in her four man rotation.

[ten ocho recon scout]

3 hours ago, AngelsLakersFan said:

GA is a great example of how our eyes can often deceive us from the reality of the game. He has 855 more career hits than Salmon. That's nearly 1000 more times fans were reminded of his talent. Less memorable were the nearly 2000 additional outs he made. GA was better at staying on the field but not much else.

I mean, the numbers say Salmon walked more. But having seen GA play in the outfield, Im positive he walked more.

[ten ocho recon scout]

GA still had one my favorite swings of all time. Griffey comps for the left handed thing. But the smooth, uppercut was real pretty when he got ahold of one.

[ten ocho recon scout]

In regards to Anderson being a dick.

FWIW, a bases clearing double... to go ahead in game 7 of the world series, is pretty huge. Like that swing won the first and only ring in franchise history.

And his reaction looks like me, when they tell us so and so that I cant stand is getting promoted at work, and all the bosses are in the room.

 

[Pancake Bear]

3 hours ago, AngelsLakersFan said:

Yes, walks an hit by pitch aren’t all that exciting though. 2000 additional outs in exchange for a couple hundred more times on base is a terrible trade off.

In those days, on base percentage wasn’t yet seen as more important than batting average. 

[case]

1 hour ago, ten ocho recon scout said:

In regards to Anderson being a dick.

FWIW, a bases clearing double... to go ahead in game 7 of the world series, is pretty huge. Like that swing won the first and only ring in franchise history.

And his reaction looks like me, when they tell us so and so that I cant stand is getting promoted at work, and all the bosses are in the room.

 

 

Yeah he really was an all business type guy emotionally on the field.  I would've thought GA was the better player for some reason but looking at the stats it's clearly Salmon but i love them both so it's okay. 

[Docwaukee]

I think one of the reasons GA is remembered so fondly is that he was one of the middle of the lineup guys for probably the greatest time in Angels baseball where the team made the playoffs 6 times in 8 years.  He was a solid player and that's about it.  

[ten ocho recon scout]

1 hour ago, Dochalo said:

I think one of the reasons GA is remembered so fondly is that he was one of the middle of the lineup guys for probably the greatest time in Angels baseball where the team made the playoffs 6 times in 8 years.  He was a solid player and that's about it.  

I think a few other reasons, too. He was home grown, played here for years and years, was an all star or runner up for a good stretch at his peak, and left here as a record holder in a lot of categories. 

Sure, a lot of us overrate him. And with how evaluations changed, he doesnt look as good in todays views. But its tough to say there was a better angel from 96 to 05. A few names from a particular year, like the vlad era starting. But aside from Salmon, GA was an Angel mainstay.

Youre right, the timing of when he was here helps a ton. But he was also one of the few positives from the dark years. And maybe even because he didnt have an off year like erstad and salmon in 01? Just consistent. .290 plus, 25-30 home runs, 100 rbi year in year out. Back then, those were what you looked for. 

[Inside Pitch]

8 hours ago, Bronson said:

Garrett Anderson had the best individual season out of the two but Salmon had a better overall career.

Salmons 95 was better than anything GA ever did.  I know GA had a big year in 2000 but, nowhere near the season Salmon did.

Edit: I see this was already brought up.... Lol