The Angels "could" have a really good supporting cast behind Ohtani in the rotation

[Drink More Yakult]

Stripling (and Andriese FWIW) was over 50% GB last season which was about top 20 for starters. Anybody know if we have good infield defense?

[Chuck]

 

[Tank]

wOBA!

[Angel Oracle]

2 hours ago, tdawg87 said:

Well 100 as a "MAX" is far too low. I think we're just arguing semantics at this point.

I think he'll reach 125 innings at least. If he doesn't, something has gone wrong. He can't just slowly work his way up there. If that's the case he won't reach 125+ innings until 2022. Obviously take it easy, but I think 5 innings per start over 25 starts max isn't much to ask. If he can't even do that then just make him the full time DH.

I can see potential for 130 innings in 2020, 150 innings in 2021, and 170 innings in 2022, which will likely be the max going forward from there.

[ten ocho recon scout]

2 hours ago, John Taylor said:

lol, if Assmus was his Manager he would have been out in the bottom of the 3rd.

@Glen, best I can do on short notice

[TroutCron]

If Ohtani can give the Angels 5-6 innings a start @3.30 ERA then that is a big plus. If he has difficulty pitching this season then I would give him a 1B glove and play him there full time. I would rather rotate guys through the DH spot to keep everyone fresh.  

[ettin]

So TORS ( @ten ocho recon scout ), in the other thread that died an early death, you asked for comps so I pulled Statcast data for pitchers that generate similar types of contact (barrels, poor top, poor bottom, etc.): https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/affinity-pitchersAndHitters-byHittingProfile#players=pitchers&player=548389-R&s=0.8

So in terms of quality of contact, Stripling is actually quite similar to Tyler Mahle (.87 comparability rating), whom I wrote up as a different potential target in the Starting Pitcher Trade Series: 

Additionally, Ross compares favorably to Clayton Kershaw (0.84) and Zack Greinke (0.86), too. Even Matt Andriese is listed there at 0.82.

Each of these pitchers may use different methods or pitch mixes to achieve the results but it helps identify pitchers of the same ilk who create similar types of contact off the bat. The fact that he compares well to Kershaw, Greinke, Marquez, et. al., combined with Chuck's sharing of the xwOBA data, points to a starter who has good capability, at least in his current role as a hybrid starter/reliever. Who knows if that will change if the Angels move him full-time into the rotation or if his limited velocity prevents him from reaching a higher ceiling or not. Remember all of the pitchers we just compared him too have at least a couple miles per hour more or greater than Stripling does so velocity may play a factor in keeping Ross in his current form, which is perfectly fine for the Angels right now.

[ten ocho recon scout]

Thanks @ettin

So is stripling a 3 in a good rotation, 2 in an average one, more or less?

[ettin]

29 minutes ago, ten ocho recon scout said:

Thanks @ettin

So is stripling a 3 in a good rotation, 2 in an average one, more or less?

I would probably guess a solid #3 if he were to pitch a full slate of innings as a starter. He would have flashes of upside (and downside). If one of his less-used pitches, like his sinker, became more viable he might tilt in a #2 direction, possibly. His expected weighted on-base average that Chuck shared is very interesting to me, because it is showing that the projections believe he should be better so there is something going on with Stripling that has some goodness to it. Proof is in the pudding and on the field but I feel good about the (potential) acquisition and the comparison to Tyler Mahle, Clayton Kershaw, and Zach Greinke is encouraging, too, in terms of quality of contact.

In the end if he can just give us solid outings, length, and our new super-charged offense a chance to win games we will be happy overall with the results I think.

[Lou]

"The Angels GOT...?"

[Chuck]

2 hours ago, Lou said:

"The Angels GOT...?"

Yeah I didn't like the way that looked or sounded either.

10 lashings from the @EnglishCop.

[Docwaukee]

10 hours ago, ettin said:

I would probably guess a solid #3 if he were to pitch a full slate of innings as a starter. He would have flashes of upside (and downside). If one of his less-used pitches, like his sinker, became more viable he might tilt in a #2 direction, possibly. His expected weighted on-base average that Chuck shared is very interesting to me, because it is showing that the projections believe he should be better so there is something going on with Stripling that has some goodness to it. Proof is in the pudding and on the field but I feel good about the (potential) acquisition and the comparison to Tyler Mahle, Clayton Kershaw, and Zach Greinke is encouraging, too, in terms of quality of contact.

In the end if he can just give us solid outings, length, and our new super-charged offense a chance to win games we will be happy overall with the results I think.

damn.  now I want pudding.  

[Lou]

2 minutes ago, Dochalo said:

damn.  now I want pudding.  

I'm sure there are people here who can tell you the best place to get pudding in Minneapolis 

[Docwaukee]

Just now, Lou said:

I'm sure there are people here who can tell you the best place to get pudding in Minneapolis 

with a local?  

where do I 'expel' it when I'm done?  

[Lou]

14 minutes ago, Dochalo said:

with a local?  

where do I 'expel' it when I'm done?  

In Boston.

 

[Docwaukee]

4 minutes ago, Lou said:

In Boston.

 

how would you know?  

[Lou]

6 minutes ago, Dochalo said:

how would you know?  

I read AW .

I wouldn't recommend it. 

[Docwaukee]

2 minutes ago, Lou said:

I read AW .

I wouldn't recommend it. 

no.  I mean if you 'expel' in boston, how would you know?  

[Lou]

7 minutes ago, Dochalo said:

no.  I mean if you 'expel' in boston, how would you know?  

[Stradling]

Lou not liking restaurant recommendations is completely on brand.  It’s silly but it’s exactly him. 
If you have the choice between good food and not good food, I’ll take the good food.  

[Lou]

That's dumb. I've never said I like bad food. 

[Stradling]

9 minutes ago, Lou said:

That's dumb. I've never said I like bad food. 

Ok I’ll change the cross bars.   Wouldn’t you prefer great to good?  And when traveling how do you know if a place is good or not?   

[ettin]

5 hours ago, Dochalo said:

with a local?  

where do I 'expel' it when I'm done?  

Only a virgin would ask that question!

[Lou]

2 hours ago, Stradling said:

Ok I’ll change the cross bars.   Wouldn’t you prefer great to good?  And when traveling how do you know if a place is good or not?   

Prefer? Sure. 

Obsess and make it a priority when planning a trip? No. 

I'm fine with good food. 

 

[Lou]

Also, I don't take advice from people here on beer, steak sauce, TV shows, relief pitchers ...

why would I trust them on food?