After Cole, what?

[floplag]

13 minutes ago, Stradling said:

Ok but at some point Arte will be the one that flinches because the Yankees ultimately have more resources.  

This is what i was referring to the other day though, he doesnt have to flinch, its a simple matter of putting the right deal in front of him and saying this is a high as we go, time to decide. 
If he wants to be in Socal, if he wants to stay in the AL, if hes getting the richest SP contract... we dont have to get pulled into a pissing contest.  It doesnt disrespect him or Boras to simply chose to not play that game how he wants to. 
We will NEVER outbid the Yankees, or even the Dodgers... thats not what its about, we need to hope its about more than money for him. 

[floplag]

After he... signs with the Yanks, a lot of apologists around here making excuses why were now planning for '22 i think. 

[wopphil]

Can a mod change the title to "after Strasburg..."

[floplag]

i honestly dont want to go there, Strasburg, just too much risk for what hes going to cost.
Time to go to whatever is left of tier 2 or start making trades.

We waited to long for Cole and should have sen this coming. 

[Stradling]

6 minutes ago, floplag said:

After he... signs with the Yanks, a lot of apologists around here making excuses why were now planning for '22 i think. 

And the alternative is what?  

[floplag]

Just now, Stradling said:

And the alternative is what?  

if you have to ask you wont agree with the answer. 

[Stradling]

Just now, floplag said:

if you have to ask you wont agree with the answer. 

If you think striking out on key free agents whether it’s the teams fault or the free agent preference doesn’t change team direction then you’re delusional.  

[Stradling]

Because not a single person is going to change the narrative that the plan was always 2022.  

[floplag]

1 minute ago, Stradling said:

If you think striking out on key free agents whether it’s the teams fault or the free agent preference doesn’t change team direction then you’re delusional.  

Of course it does,  thats not what i said at all, but by all means jump on that all knowing high horse and take a ride. 
 

[Stradling]

Just now, floplag said:

Of course it does,  thats not what i said at all, but by all means jump on that all knowing high horse and take a ride. 
 

Will do.  You posted it expecting a response, I gave it to you. You’re welcome. 

[floplag]

4 minutes ago, Stradling said:

Will do.  You posted it expecting a response, I gave it to you. You’re welcome. 

a response, not the usual condescension... but i guess that as usual one and the same. 

[Stradling]

Just now, floplag said:

a response, not the usual condescension... but i guess that as usual one and the same. 

Ok when you posted apologists changing the plan to 2022, you weren’t being condescending and you expected to be treated with more respect than what we responded to?  Seems legit.

[floplag]

1 minute ago, Stradling said:

Ok when you posted apologists changing the plan to 2022, you weren’t being condescending and you expected to be treated with more respect than what we responded to?  Seems legit.

about as legit as suggesting the plan was always 22... why would we spend that kind of money now if that were true... and before you say you plan ahead why didnt we do that last year?  its just double talk to make yourself sounds right all the time, nothing more

[Docwaukee]

everyone is gettin' a little chippy.  

[Stradling]

1 minute ago, floplag said:

about as legit as suggesting the plan was always 22... why would we spend that kind of money now if that were true... and before you say you plan ahead why didnt we do that last year?  its just double talk to make yourself sounds right all the time, nothing more

Well the plan isn’t 2022, you are pretending that’s going to be the narrative going forward.  The goal was to improve this year in free agency and with using prospect capital. 

[Stradling]

42 minutes ago, Dochalo said:

everyone is gettin' a little chippy.  

I’m absolutely chippy

[Pancake Bear]

1 hour ago, floplag said:

This is what i was referring to the other day though, he doesnt have to flinch, its a simple matter of putting the right deal in front of him and saying this is a high as we go, time to decide. 
If he wants to be in Socal, if he wants to stay in the AL, if hes getting the richest SP contract... we dont have to get pulled into a pissing contest.  It doesnt disrespect him or Boras to simply chose to not play that game how he wants to. 
We will NEVER outbid the Yankees, or even the Dodgers... thats not what its about, we need to hope its about more than money for him. 

??? Seriously?

[Lou]

3 hours ago, wopphil said:

Let's say we sign Cole on Tuesday. Then what?

[Brandon]

1 hour ago, Lou said:

I know the feeling

[Warfarin]

If we secure Cole, then:

1.  Sign Ryu (3/50?)

2.  Sign Castro (2/10?)

Lineup vs RHP:  LaStella 3B, Trout CF, Ohtani DH, Upton LF, Goodwin RF, Thaiss 1B, Simmons SS, Castro C, Fletcher 2B

Lineup vs LHP:  Fletcher 2B, Trout CF, Ohtani DH, Upton LF, Pujols 1B, Simmons SS, Hermosillo RF, Stassi C, Cozart 3B

Once Adell reaches the majors, by May/June, that lineup vs LHP should improve.

Rotation:  Cole, Ryu, Bundy, Heaney, Canning, with Barria, Suarez, and Sandoval as solid, optionable depth.  Ohtani will be worked back in but will be on an innings restriction.  I expect only ~80-100 innings out of him for the year.

[failos]

Don’t count your chickens before they’re hatched

[Angelsfan1984]

11 minutes ago, failos said:

Don’t count your chickens before they’re hatched

What if there is no rooster? 

[Angelsfan1984]

Seriously though, everyone needs to relax and look at the real reason he hasn’t signed yet....he’s wondering the same thing I’ve been wondering for the last 3 years.

do squirrels get chapped lips?

[ukyah]

7 hours ago, Warfarin said:

If we secure Cole, then:

1.  Sign Ryu (3/50?)

2.  Sign Castro (2/10?)

Lineup vs RHP:  LaStella 3B, Trout CF, Ohtani DH, Upton LF, Goodwin RF, Thaiss 1B, Simmons SS, Castro C, Fletcher 2B

Lineup vs LHP:  Fletcher 2B, Trout CF, Ohtani DH, Upton LF, Pujols 1B, Simmons SS, Hermosillo RF, Stassi C, Cozart 3B

Once Adell reaches the majors, by May/June, that lineup vs LHP should improve.

Rotation:  Cole, Ryu, Bundy, Heaney, Canning, with Barria, Suarez, and Sandoval as solid, optionable depth.  Ohtani will be worked back in but will be on an innings restriction.  I expect only ~80-100 innings out of him for the year.

i say he pitches more than 125 innings this year.

[failos]

13 minutes ago, Angelsfan1984 said:

What if there is no rooster? 

I will have to consult AW’s cock expert @tdawg87  first.