Patrick Sandoval

[Docwaukee]

gets his own thread.  Outstanding performance tonight.  

[Docwaukee]

 

 

[Chuck]

He sure looked good. In fact, he looked like what I thought we were going to see from Jose Suarez. 

Sandoval had a nice fastball early on too, hitting 95-96 MPH in his first inning of work, but sat at 92-94 after. Great changeup and breaking ball. 

I was impressed! 

[TroutField]

Props to you for even staying tuned into this game... he was starting his first major league game... did he really need an opener? 

[Stradling]

I wish I could have seen it but it reads like he did well.   That’s awesome.  

[PattyD22]

I had not seen Sandoval pitch.  I was impressed with his fastball, but it appeared when he took about 3-4 mph off of it, he had better command of it.

He has a nice 12-6 breaking ball that nearly breaks straight down.  I won't call it Kershaw-esque, but it has nearly the same trajectory as Kershaw's breaking ball does.

His change up was what I was really impressed with.  Great arm deception, and a solid 8-10 mph difference in speed.  

He was a really nice bright spot (along with Trout) in an otherwise crummy game.

[Claude]

Pretty damn good outing. I hope he sticks. We could use a dependable arm like his. 

[Stradling]

How did we acquire Sandoval?

[Chuck]

3 minutes ago, Stradling said:

How did we acquire Sandoval?

Maldonado from the Astros. 

[Docwaukee]

1 minute ago, Stradling said:

I wish I could have seen it but it reads like he did well.   That’s awesome.  

He looked great.  

The first run he gave up was after he walked the first batter and Smith had a passed ball that was ruled a wild pitch.  

The second run he gave up was on a wild pitch by Garcia who allowed the inherited runner to score.  

His fastball and change combo were lethal.  He came out throwing up to 96 and sat at 94 most of the game until his last inning.  He didn't spot the fastball super well but the change came from the same arm slot and the Reds clearly had a tough time picking up the ball.  Curve showed promise but didn't have the slot on that most of the time.  Slider was average but kept hitters honest.  

we talked about it in the GD but if he comes out throwing 96 again, we talking about a much different ceiling for him.  I'll take 96 over 5 innings from him with dominant stuff for those 5 as opposed to him going 7 at 92/93.  

He's gonna have bad games because he's got a decent amount to work on command wise.  

Gubi gave the comp of Hector Santiago which I think is pretty fair.  Especially if he's got more upstairs than Hector.  Santiago actually had really good stuff but couldn't keep his wits about him.  

Sandoval has a chance to settle in as a 3/4 if his command remains consistent.  If this velo spike is legit, he could be a #2.  If he struggles with command then he'll be a back end guy.  My guess is that he has a couple seasons at his peak as a #3, and some season on either side of that where he's a #4/5.  

But a great debut and hope for the future.  

[Inside Pitch]

Dillon Peters and Patrick Sandoval are making a case for why numbers in SLC are even more meaningless than usual...

[Blarg]

In a way, so is Cole.

[Docwaukee]

Just now, Blarg said:

In a way, so is Cole.

Cole actually has solid stuff.  Enough to make him a middle of the pack pen guy.  He got hammered last time out but today he got nickle dimed a bit which happens.  

[Blarg]

When all was said an done that loose change added up to 4 bucks.

[tomsred]

3 hours ago, Dochalo said:

 

 

So you're saying that there isn't any need to sign G. Cole this off season,  his replacement arrived early tonight.  I would get confused anyway between G. Cole and T. Cole on the same team, at least they would have different numbers, I think.

[Taylor]

When I looked at the line score, I thought, "Welp, looks like Sandoval got rocked." But then I realized he had an opener, and saw that he pitched 5 innings and had 8 K's. Excellent.

[Chuck]

1st #MLB K: #Angels No. 11 prospect Patrick Sandoval froze Eugenio Suarez to pick up his first career strikeout. pic.twitter.com/UcQc5YA5Dk

— MLB Pipeline (@MLBPipeline) August 6, 2019

[Jeff Fletcher]

3 hours ago, Dochalo said:

we talked about it in the GD but if he comes out throwing 96 again, we talking about a much different ceiling for him.  I'll take 96 over 5 innings from him with dominant stuff for those 5 as opposed to him going 7 at 92/93.  

When he was throwing 96 he had no command of his offspeed stuff. I think he was just overamped (understandably) for his first inning. 

He pitched much better at 93-94.

[Tank]

very please with what I saw tonight. did he make a convincing enough case to negate having an opener in his next start?

[mulwin444]

1 hour ago, Jeff Fletcher said:

When he was throwing 96 he had no command of his offspeed stuff. I think he was just overamped (understandably) for his first inning. 

He pitched much better at 93-94.

Yeah, if he can settle in at 93-94 and command his other pitches he looks like he could be successful.  We'll see on his next start how he adjusts...

[tdawg87]

It moved.

[jordan]

With Sandoval breaching the Bigs, who is the next pitching prospect for the Angels in the minors?  Seems like the cliff just got really steep. 

[Jason]

Didn’t watch any of the game as they have been insufferable as of late. Glad to hear that he looked good. This team needs all the good news it can get

[totdprods]

1 hour ago, jordan said:

With Sandoval breaching the Bigs, who is the next pitching prospect for the Angels in the minors?  Seems like the cliff just got really steep. 

One of Oliver Ortega, Luis Madero, Jeremy Beasley, or Andrew Wantz would be the likeliest, followed by Bradish and Criswell, then one of Soriano or Yan, would be my guess. 

Madero might even pop up this September since he’s on the 40, but he’ll need to show some improvement. That first group is probably depth for 2020, Bradish and Criswell are guys who could move quick and be in play late 2020 if they’re producing, and Soriano and Yan are likelier 2021+ at earliest, but you never know. 

[Jeff Fletcher]

2 hours ago, jordan said:

With Sandoval breaching the Bigs, who is the next pitching prospect for the Angels in the minors?  Seems like the cliff just got really steep. 

Yeah. I don’t think there’s another guy of this caliber coming anytime soon. 

But since the start of last year they’ve had 4 guys debut who all look like at least MLB back end starters (Canning, Barría, Suarez, Sandoval). All are 21-23 years old. 

The rest of this season may be all about those 4 showing who is going to improve and who isn’t.