2018 Hot Stove League

[totdprods]

Curious if anyone thinks we should go after Gerrit Cole when he hits FA next winter. Maybe that's part of the reason we aren't spending big on pitching this offseason.

[Tank]

9 hours ago, nando714 said:

Keep third base open 

throw the bank at arenado next winter 

 

1 hour ago, totdprods said:

Curious if anyone thinks we should go after Gerrit Cole when he hits FA next winter. Maybe that's part of the reason we aren't spending big on pitching this offseason.

Yes to both.

[Lou]

Just now, Tank said:

 

Yes to both.

and Price 

[Pancake Bear]

2 hours ago, totdprods said:

Curious if anyone thinks we should go after Gerrit Cole when he hits FA next winter. Maybe that's part of the reason we aren't spending big on pitching this offseason.

Definitely. We’re waiting to spend big on...Gerrit Cole.

[nando714]

33 minutes ago, Tank said:

 

Yes to both.

Bring back the Orange County boys 

Cole and Arenado

[JarsOfClay]

Angels should have let Upton opt out and not sign Cozart that would have freed up 35m which could have been spent on Machado instead.

Upton+Cozart WAR = 3.9

Machado WAR alone = 5.7

 

[UndertheHalo]

4 hours ago, totdprods said:

Curious if anyone thinks we should go after Gerrit Cole when he hits FA next winter. Maybe that's part of the reason we aren't spending big on pitching this offseason.

Every year there’s some variation of this.  I really doubt the Angels are kicking the can down the road because they’re waiting for some different FA.  There’s always going to be some other player becoming available. 

How many years have we been looking to this offseason ?

Edited December 16, 2018 by UndertheHalo

[wopphil]

35 minutes ago, JarsOfClay said:

Angels should have let Upton opt out and not sign Cozart that would have freed up 35m which could have been spent on Machado instead.

Upton+Cozart WAR = 3.9

Machado WAR alone = 5.7

 

But then we wouldn't have a left fielder. Wouldn't that pose some problems?

[Tank]

45 minutes ago, JarsOfClay said:

Angels should have let Upton opt out and not sign Cozart that would have freed up 35m which could have been spent on Machado instead.

Upton+Cozart WAR = 3.9

Machado WAR alone = 5.7

 

Which would have left us in worse condition last year and likely less attractive to future free agents.

 

[Stradling]

32 minutes ago, wopphil said:

But then we wouldn't have a left fielder. Wouldn't that pose some problems?

But it would give the complainers one more thing to complain about.  

[popo85]

Upton was solid for us, in a ideal line up 5th would be a perfect  spot

[Erstad Grit]

1 hour ago, JarsOfClay said:

Angels should have let Upton opt out and not sign Cozart that would have freed up 35m which could have been spent on Machado instead.

Upton+Cozart WAR = 3.9

Machado WAR alone = 5.7

 

I think if we were willing to let Upton walk we would have called his bluff and he would have just stayed.  We would have Upton on a more reasonable contract.  

[Stradling]

9 minutes ago, Erstad Grit said:

I think if we were willing to let Upton walk we would have called his bluff and he would have just stayed.  We would have Upton on a more reasonable contract.  

He is making less money per year but for one more year. 

[Lou]

10 minutes ago, Erstad Grit said:

I think if we were willing to let Upton walk we would have called his bluff and he would have just stayed.  We would have Upton on a more reasonable contract.  

all we did was add a year at a total cost of $17.5M, while freeing up money last year and this year by back loading the deal. So if he was still playing on his old deal, we would actually have less money to spend this year 

[ettin]

12 minutes ago, Erstad Grit said:

I think if we were willing to let Upton walk we would have called his bluff and he would have just stayed.  We would have Upton on a more reasonable contract.  

At what time was he making a bluff?

From all accounts I remember reading it was a mutual interest on both sides to get something done?

[Lou]

well, that didn't take long

lol 

[DMVol]

2 hours ago, UndertheHalo said:

Every year there’s some variation of this.  I really doubt the Angels are kicking the can down the road because they’re waiting for some different FA.  There’s always going to be some other player becoming available. 

How many years have we been looking to this offseason ?

[Lou]

I think the Yankees go all in on Machado. They don't know when/if Gregorius will be back in 2019, and the he becomes a FA at the end of the year 

*with apologies to reddit guy 

[wopphil]

I love that we are bitching about a guy who put up a near 4 WAR season while earning $16 mil. 

[JarsOfClay]

2 hours ago, wopphil said:

But then we wouldn't have a left fielder. Wouldn't that pose some problems?

No, we could have made a small trade or signed Billy Hamilton as a stop gap until Adell or Marsh are ready.

And even we did have  LF problem, Machado still provides a higher war than both combined and is 6 years younger.

[Stradling]

Hamilton is pretty bad, doesn’t get on base.  

[Stradling]

Also I’m sure we weren’t complaining about left field when Trout was in CF and Kole was performing in RF.  

[JarsOfClay]

10 minutes ago, wopphil said:

I love that we are bitching about a guy who put up a near 4 WAR season while earning $16 mil. 

Not bitching, Upton was great if you take away his horrid defense and his .197 with RISP, I think he's quite a player. I'm just saying that money could have been spent on a much more superior player and Machado fills a position of need at 3b.

 

[Lou]

14 minutes ago, JarsOfClay said:

Not bitching, Upton was great if you take away his horrid defense and his .197 with RISP, I think he's quite a player. I'm just saying that money could have been spent on a much more superior player and Machado fills a position of need at 3b.

 

while creating a hole in LF

[tdawg87]

We spent over a literal decade trying to fill LF