Rosenthal: Scioscia expected to step down at end of season

[failos]

Nerds

[Stradling]

7 minutes ago, robblin17 said:

Sure. Whatever floats your boat. 

You know what floats my boat, facts.  So in 2010, the season where Napoli played 68 games at first base, he caught 64 games.  That year Mathis caught one more game than Napoli.  That year in the first half of the season, Napoli played in 80 games, Mathis played in 27.  So I will go with my opinion (based on facts) that Mathis would have caught significantly less games that year.   

[robblin17]

2 minutes ago, Stradling said:

Well once again, and I will type it slower, I used the SAME post you used to prove your point.  I am sorry it only applies to your advanced use of baseball reference.  

In years outside of his 22 y/o and 23 y/o season, in which Jeff Mathis played a combined 23 games, Mathis averaged 80 games a year with the Angels. His average was greater than any single number of games played with any other team he played for after the Angels. 

Was that better for ya, champ? 

[robblin17]

Just now, Stradling said:

You know what floats my boat, facts.  So in 2010, the season where Napoli played 68 games at first base, he caught 64 games.  That year Mathis caught one more game than Napoli.  That year in the first half of the season, Napoli played in 80 games, Mathis played in 27.  So I will go with my opinion (based on facts) that Mathis would have caught significantly less games that year.   

So we should extrapolate one year over his entire Angel’s tenure, got it. 

[Stradling]

1 minute ago, robblin17 said:

In years outside of his 22 y/o and 23 y/o season, in which Jeff Mathis played a combined 23 games, Mathis averaged 80 games a year with the Angels. His average was greater than any single number of games played with any other team he played for after the Angels. 

Was that better for ya, champ? 

nope.  

[Stradling]

Just now, robblin17 said:

So we should extrapolate one year over his entire Angel’s tenure, got it. 

Well you are using one player decision to shit on a 19 year veteran manager, so why not.  

[robblin17]

Just now, Stradling said:

Well you are using one player decision to shit on a 19 year veteran manager, so why not.  

Perfect! If that’s what you think! 

[Dick B Back]

Why don’t you guys get a room for your dick dancing? This thread has come to a grinding halt.

[The Ghost of Bob Starr]

Hey Strad, was Bobby Cox a HOF manager in your opinion?  I look at this list of guys above Sosh and I see a lot of rings.  Cox had one and leads managers in getting thrown out of games.  

 

 

1	Connie Mack	3,731	3,948	.486
2	John McGraw	2,763	1,948	.586
3	Tony La Russa	2,728	2,365	.536
4	Bobby Cox	2,504	2,001	.556
5	Joe Torre	2,326	1,997	.538
6	Sparky Anderson	2,194	1,834	.545
7	Bucky Harris	2,158	2,219	.493
8	Joe McCarthy	2,125	1,333	.615
9	Walter Alston	2,040	1,613	.558
10	Leo Durocher	2,008	1,709	.540
11	Bruce Bochy *	1,909	1,909	.500
12	Casey Stengel	1,905	1,842	.508
13	Gene Mauch	1,902	2,037	.483
14	Bill McKechnie	1,896	1,723	.524
15	Dusty Baker	1,863	1,636	.532
16	Lou Piniella	1,835	1,713	.517
17	Jim Leyland	1,769	1,728	.506
18	Mike Scioscia *	1,624	1,402	.537

[stormngt]

1 hour ago, robblin17 said:

http://www.latimes.com/sports/angels/la-sp-angels-gm-eppler-20151006-story.html

http://www.latimes.com/sports/sportsnow/la-sp-sn-former-angels-gm-dipoto-manager-scioscia-20160219-story.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/sports/wp/2015/07/01/the-angels-made-mike-scioscia-more-powerful-than-any-mlb-manager-and-it-may-cost-them-jerry-dipoto/?utm_term=.986aa2be0175&noredirect=on

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/the-angels-are-sinking-fast-but-mike-scioscia-seems-as-safe-as-can-be-as-manager/

http://www.espn.com/los-angeles/mlb/columns/story?id=4889770

http://articles.latimes.com/2011/oct/04/sports/la-sp-simers-20111005

Was Mike Scioscia cutting guys or trading them over the years? Who knows. We will probably never have the exact extent of his reach. But to be so naive and think that Mike Scioscia did not have a huge amount of sway in building the team and organization is your problem and not mine. 

I said give me proof.  Not other peoples speculation.  I wanted my team reading all that shit!

The second link you posted merely stated Eppler didnt get along with Scioscia.  It didnt say Scioscia was in control 

The third article had no documented sources and no quotes.  It was authors personal opinion 

Nice try.....I know proof is a pain in the ass.  It's so much easier giving your opinion as a fact instead of finding facts

[robblin17]

1 minute ago, stormngt said:

I said give me proof.  Not other peoples speculation.  I wanted my team reading all that shit!

The second link you posted merely stated Eppler didnt get along with Scioscia.  It didnt say Scioscia was in control 

The third article had no documented sources and no quotes.  It was authors personal opinion 

Nice try.....I know proof is a pain in the ass.  It's so much easier giving your opinion as a fact instead of finding facts

Hold on, let me get the front office phone recordings. 

[stormngt]

4 minutes ago, robblin17 said:

Hold on, let me get the front office phone recordings. 

Stop spreading fake news......

Has Dipoto stated Scioscia made the personal decisions? Or did he just say they didnt get along?

 

[stormngt]

18 minutes ago, The Ghost of Bob Starr said:

Hey Strad, was Bobby Cox a HOF manager in your opinion?  I look at this list of guys above Sosh and I see a lot of rings.  Cox had one and leads managers in getting thrown out of games.  

 

 

1	Connie Mack	3,731	3,948	.486
2	John McGraw	2,763	1,948	.586
3	Tony La Russa	2,728	2,365	.536
4	Bobby Cox	2,504	2,001	.556
5	Joe Torre	2,326	1,997	.538
6	Sparky Anderson	2,194	1,834	.545
7	Bucky Harris	2,158	2,219	.493
8	Joe McCarthy	2,125	1,333	.615
9	Walter Alston	2,040	1,613	.558
10	Leo Durocher	2,008	1,709	.540
11	Bruce Bochy *	1,909	1,909	.500
12	Casey Stengel	1,905	1,842	.508
13	Gene Mauch	1,902	2,037	.483
14	Bill McKechnie	1,896	1,723	.524
15	Dusty Baker	1,863	1,636	.532
16	Lou Piniella	1,835	1,713	.517
17	Jim Leyland	1,769	1,728	.506
18	Mike Scioscia *	1,624	1,402	.537

There are guys in the HOF with only one ring.

To be honest I do think Sosh needs to manage 5 more years to guarantee his position in the HOF.

But just looking at the numbers you posted nobody with the amount of wins and as high of winning percentage has not made the HOF

[Stradling]

47 minutes ago, The Ghost of Bob Starr said:

Hey Strad, was Bobby Cox a HOF manager in your opinion?  I look at this list of guys above Sosh and I see a lot of rings.  Cox had one and leads managers in getting thrown out of games.  

 

 

1	Connie Mack	3,731	3,948	.486
2	John McGraw	2,763	1,948	.586
3	Tony La Russa	2,728	2,365	.536
4	Bobby Cox	2,504	2,001	.556
5	Joe Torre	2,326	1,997	.538
6	Sparky Anderson	2,194	1,834	.545
7	Bucky Harris	2,158	2,219	.493
8	Joe McCarthy	2,125	1,333	.615
9	Walter Alston	2,040	1,613	.558
10	Leo Durocher	2,008	1,709	.540
11	Bruce Bochy *	1,909	1,909	.500
12	Casey Stengel	1,905	1,842	.508
13	Gene Mauch	1,902	2,037	.483
14	Bill McKechnie	1,896	1,723	.524
15	Dusty Baker	1,863	1,636	.532
16	Lou Piniella	1,835	1,713	.517
17	Jim Leyland	1,769	1,728	.506
18	Mike Scioscia *	1,624	1,402	.537

I think Cox is a hall of famer 

[tdawg87]

Just now, Stradling said:

I think Cox is a hall of famer 

PoppyCox

[tdawg87]

This is fun.

[kevinb]

3 hours ago, Stradling said:

I have no idea if he will manage again, but age probably won’t be the deciding factor if he moves to another city or state.   He’s five years younger than Maddon, who three years ago went to Chicago.  

I get that. I’m just saying. Mike still lives in the same area for the last 20 plus years. Maddon moved around more. My guess is he will probably stay here. The older people get and the more they stay in one spot the less likely it is for them to want to move. But who knows. It’s all a guess. 

[kevinb]

7 minutes ago, Stradling said:

I think Cox is a hall of famer 

Bobby Cox is definitely a hall of famer. 

[ettin]

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2018/08/angels-manager-mike-scioscia-expected-to-step-down-after-season.html

It's back on folks!

[Inside Pitch]

6 minutes ago, ettin said:

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2018/08/angels-manager-mike-scioscia-expected-to-step-down-after-season.html

It's back on folks!

Poppyfaux!

[ettin]

3 minutes ago, Inside Pitch said:

Poppyfaux!

Or a dildo = fauxcock

[The Ghost of Bob Starr]

I’d expect if Sosh were to manage again, it would be the Dodgers.  Especially if Roberts comes up short again. 

The halos probably should keep him around though, especially if he has no desire to manage. 

[GrittyVeterans]

Arte still can give him another 10 year deal

not out of the woods yet

[m0nkey]

Someone mentioned Chavez somewhere:

 

 

[jordan]

Lots of birds chirping the same thing.   I’d definitely be interested in Chavez.