Andrelton Simmons

[NachoPop]

While his prowess in the field has long been his calling card I was pleasantly surprised by the numbers he's putting up with the bat. I knew he was going well but I didn't know just HOW well.  Leading the league in AB per SO too. Where do you think he'll end up numbers wise at the end of the year?

[GrittyVeterans]

He'll never win an MVP but he's a guy who will have at least a few top 10 finishes

[BackUpTheTruck]

18 minutes ago, NachoPop said:

While his prowess in the field has long been his calling card I was pleasantly surprised by the numbers he's putting up with the bat. I knew he was going well but I didn't know just HOW well.  Leading the league in AB per SO too. Where do you think he'll end up numbers wise at the end of the year?

Tony Gwynn AB per SO for his career was 21.4 and Simmons is up there with 19.3.  I am so impressed with how quickly he improved his hitting.

RIP Tony Gwynn

[JustATroutFan]

6 minutes ago, calscuf said:

It’s sad we can have so many fantastic players and be so mediocre.

3 stars won't make a team great when there are like 4-5 everyday players in the lineup that is hitting like Mathis or worse than Mathis, a bad bullpen, and a clueless manager.

[SoWhat]

He has a higher o-WAR than any NL player? I knew he was having a nice offensive year, but that's insane, even if it's just a quarter of the season. 

[Lou]

We should have kept Aybar 

[Dick Enberg]

3 hours ago, Lou said:

We should have kept Aybar 

yep! someone needs to wash the dishes.

[nando714]

He’s clearly our 2nd best everyday player 

1.trout 

2. Simmons 

3. Ohtani (I’d put him higher but he only plays around 4 games a week?) 

 

 

 

[nando714]

3 hours ago, Lou said:

We should have kept Aybar 

Should of kept Segura then kept Newcomb. 

Thats probably an even trade at this point 

[Second Base]

Honest question, you have Andrelton Simmons and Ozzie Smith in his prime on  the same team. Who plays SS?

 

[T.G.]

I hope Angels fans vote Simmons into the all-star game as a starter. 

[Stradling]

10 minutes ago, Scotty@AW said:

Honest question, you have Andrelton Simmons and Ozzie Smith in his prime on  the same team. Who plays SS?

 

Simmons is better, but I might put him at third and Ozzie at SS.  I guess it depends on if Ozzie can play 2nd. 

[Angel Oracle]

1 hour ago, Dick Enberg said:

yep! someone needs to wash the dishes.

And supply the dancing entertainment.

[Dick B Back]

Pitchers are throwing fastballs up in the zone this year to everyone and this works to Simba’s advantage. Hope he keeps it up but realistically, an AVG anywhere over .300 would be great.

[Angel Oracle]

1 hour ago, nando714 said:

Should of kept Segura then kept Newcomb. 

Thats probably an even trade at this point 

Segura for two months of Grienke, ugh!   Who seriously thought Grienke would re-sign here?

[Stradling]

3 minutes ago, Angel Oracle said:

Segura for two months of Grienke, ugh!   Who seriously thought Grienke would re-sign here?

A lot of people.  I’m sure you can remember the narrative around him.  He was thought to be a guy that wouldn’t want every dollar and considering his medical condition he’d shy away from the major markets. 

[Pablo]

Honestly, that was the exact kind of trade I keep hearing people call for. Trout was in the midst of a great rookie season, these guys were high-risk, high-potential prospects (neither of the pitchers panned out, btw), and people were calling for Dipoto to make a move to shore up the staff for a potential wild-card run. Which failed, as they couldn't overtake the Rangers and Orioles. This was never going to be a 'long term' sign for the Angels - it was always a rental to 'get them over the hump'.  

Those who don't learn from past mistakes are doomed to repeat them.

[Inside Pitch]

9 minutes ago, Angel Oracle said:

Segura for two months of Grienke, ugh!   Who seriously thought Grienke would re-sign here?

That trade gets a lot of hate -- but Jerry got about as much value as you could hope to get out of Segura.  Pena and the other guy were prospects only in name.

[Pablo]

46 minutes ago, Inside Pitch said:

That trade gets a lot of hate -- but Jerry got about as much value as you could hope to get out of Segura.  Pena and the other guy were prospects only in name.

Yeah, they were top 10 for the Angels system, but then....

[Angel Oracle]

Back on topic, is any AL SS playing any better than Simmons, all around?

Machado and Lindor are hitting for more power, but no one has a higher WAR than Simmons.

 

[Pablo]

Agree. And I bet he places no better than 5th in the AL all-star balloting.

[Angel Oracle]

SS is a solid position in the AL now, with Simmons, Lindor, Machado, Correa, and Segura.

Gregorius fell off the face of the earth offensively in May.

[Inside Pitch]

22 minutes ago, Pablo said:

Yeah, they were top 10 for the Angels system, but then....

I understand where they ranked, but both pitchers were more suspects than prospects IMO.    I did think Hellweg was going to be one of those failed starters that ended up being a really good BP piece, but I think he had injuries get in the way.  Ariel Pena was smoke and mirrors and a lot of middling stuff.   I didn't mind losing either of them.

[eaterfan]

16 minutes ago, Angel Oracle said:

Back on topic, is any AL SS playing any better than Simmons, all around?

Machado and Lindor are hitting for more power, but no one has a higher WAR than Simmons.

 

Lindor, Machado, and Simmons are all playing at about the same level. Simmons and Lindor are tied in BWAR and Lindor has the Higher fWAR. But all 3 are certainly within the margin of error of each other. I normally don't care about this stuff, but I'd like to see Simmons make the AS team. He deserves it. 

[nando714]

1 hour ago, The Boogie Man said:

A lot of people.  I’m sure you can remember the narrative around him.  He was thought to be a guy that wouldn’t want every dollar and considering his medical condition he’d shy away from the major markets. 

A lot of people? 

He made it be known that he was going to the highest bidder. Dodgers had an open check book. 

They gave Zack 147m with an opt out , we gave Hamilton 125m.