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Gameday Thread: 5/20 Rays @ Angels. Pujols off-day. Trout DH


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4 minutes ago, IheartLA said:

fair point, Ohtani is good no doubt

but his splitter is A+, his fastball has been disappointing

I tend to look more so at fangraphs/analytics and their analysis - I agree that Ohtani is a good pitcher with good stuff but his fastball doesn't rise as much as anticipated so it's not a Kimbrel/Chapman FB where it will eat hitters up. It needs to be located in the corners.

Ohtani has an excellent fastball. 

Its just that you don’t want hitters comfortable sitting on it. That’s true for just about any pitcher when it comes to the fastball I think.  When Ohtani isn’t hitting his spots it’s a problem.  I think it’s a bit sckewed by those two blister starts he had. 

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Just now, Ohtani&Trout said:

What was he projected to do on Opening Day by Steamer? How much has it changed compared to then?

Hitting: he was projected to be #17 in WRC+ during the 1st month, he's basically held steady at #21 but that's mostly due to Lindor/Ramirez and some others rising.

Pitching: he was #6 in ERA among starters but he's now projected for a half ERA higher. So guys like Buehler/De Grom/Mcullers/Morton are now ahead. Garrett Richards is just behind Ohtani, so much for Richards being shit. The dude is a good pitcher.

The projections are projecting the FUTURE: so Trout's steamer statline is over 105 games since that's how much of the season is left they're projecting him for. So Ohtani's current ERA, BA is included in the formula to determine his future statline, but it is not calculated into the statline. It's all what they predict he will do in the future.

BTW OHTANI IS AWESOME, but people on this board will make fun of any player but the second you say anything about Ohtani or Trout it's like a personal attack. if you took a compilation of remarks made about the other 23 players + Scioscia it would almost be cyber bullying yet if you say anything that isn't Ohtani/Trout are god then you're a hater.  

 

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Just now, IheartLA said:

Hitting: he was projected to be #17 in WRC+ during the 1st month, he's basically held steady at #21 but that's mostly due to Lindor/Ramirez and some others rising.

Pitching: he was #6 in ERA among starters but he's now projected for a half ERA higher. So guys like Buehler/De Grom/Mcullers/Morton are now ahead. Garrett Richards is just behind Ohtani, so much for Richards being shit. The dude is a good pitcher.

The projections are projecting the FUTURE: so Trout's steamer statline is over 105 games since that's how much of the season is left they're projecting him for. So Ohtani's current ERA, BA is included in the formula to determine his future statline, but it is not calculated into the statline. It's all what they predict he will do in the future.

BTW OHTANI IS AWESOME, but people on this board will make fun of any player but the second you say anything about Ohtani or Trout it's like a personal attack. if you took a compilation of remarks made about the other 23 players + Scioscia it would almost be cyber bullying yet if you say anything that isn't Ohtani/Trout are god then you're a hater.  

 

But Ohtani and Trout are god.

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26 minutes ago, TroutField said:

It’s too bad whatever Ohtani does in this game from here on out doesn’t really matter anyways with this sleep walking offense. Game already feels lost down 1-0

I agree 

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Just now, VariousCrap said:

Kinsler sucks.  Just sucks.  Something has to be done.

Please stop being that club that’s scared of hurting feelings, he needs to be dfa’d we just cannot have another black hole in the line up, especially as our lead off hitter when we have options in the minors. Fernandez needs to be given a shot, Kinsler pops up more than I have ever seen from any hitter 

 

 

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Just now, Scioscia4MVP said:

As soon as Kinsler is gone he'll be picked up by the Rangers where he will hit .500 vs the Angels & suddenly pull his numbers up to his career norms.

Yep, just like Aybar. 

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Just now, UndertheHalo said:

But Ohtani and Trout are god.

and i've written posts saying that, but most people will  write knee jerk posts when Pujols K's or HR's, it's he's shit or "the machine"

when Richards K's someone he's amazing when he starts nibbling he's trash.

what's different between when Ohtani gives up a HR and when he K's someone?

people will post pictures, jokes about Calhoun/Scioscia but if you write one slight observation about Trout or Ohtani this entire board will come after you like a mob of Bieber/One Direction fans

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