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[Jason]

[Jason]

1 minute ago, calscuf said:

James Woods probably isn’t the best source for anything. 

He's not wrong

[Blarg]

He is wrong, the Constitution does not grant conceal carry on private or government property.

[mtangelsfan]

1 minute ago, Blarg said:

He is wrong, the Constitution does not grant conceal carry on private or government property.

How do you figure?

[Make Angels Great Again]

And 2A debate round 37...ready...fight!

[Jason]

4 hours ago, Blarg said:

He is wrong, the Constitution does not grant conceal carry on private or government property.

The tweet says nothing about concealed carry

[Blarg]

5 hours ago, mtangelsfan said:

How do you figure?

The right to bear arms is not a guarantee that you can carry them in public. It also does not guarantee you can ignore the rights of property owners that would object to weapons being brought to their shop or residence. Moreso it doesn't give any rights to be armed on government owned properties without consent. 

This is a huge flaws in the 2nd amendment proponents that want to strap up and go anywhere. It was never the intention of the law. 

[Blarg]

56 minutes ago, Jason said:

The tweet says nothing about concealed carry

Or open carry.

[mtangelsfan]

2 minutes ago, Blarg said:

The right to bear arms is not a guarantee that you can carry them in public. It also does not guarantee you can ignore the rights of property owners that would object to weapons being brought to their shop or residence. Moreso it doesn't give any rights to be armed on government owned properties without consent. 

This is a huge flaws in the 2nd amendment proponents that want to strap up and go anywhere. It was never the intention of the law. 

That is your opinion, not fact.

[Blarg]

I have no issue with the proper transport of firearms on your person or vehicle but when you enter someone else's property your 2nd amendment protection ends and you are under the guide of the owners rules. 

[the dude abides]

9 hours ago, Geoff said:

 

Went on a Sunday morning news show and informed everyone he won't resign and that he's an "amazing leader."

 

Awesome

 

 

Incompetent and delusional.  He's basically the sheriff equivalent of Trump

[Amazing Larry]

37 minutes ago, Blarg said:

I have no issue with the proper transport of firearms on your person or vehicle but when you enter someone else's property your 2nd amendment protection ends and you are under the guide of the owners rules. 

Yet that still does not dispute what James Woods said. He’s not wrong. 

[UndertheHalo]

1 hour ago, mtangelsfan said:

That is your opinion, not fact.

Surely you don’t believe that the 2nd amendment guarantees the right of someone to carry a firearm onto private property.  Am I misunderstanding this ? 

Edited February 26, 2018 by UndertheHalo

[mtangelsfan]

Not necessarily.

[UndertheHalo]

6 minutes ago, mtangelsfan said:

Not necessarily.

This seems like a black and white thing to me.  In what circumstance can someone be armed on your property if you say no ? Like what possible guarantee could the 2nd amendment provide ? 

Edited February 26, 2018 by UndertheHalo

[mtangelsfan]

If I have a "no guns allowed " sign then yes, the shouldn't have a gun

[Tank]

i went to whole foods market tonight. i did not see any "no guns allowed" signs. would i then be able to carry my weapon onto their property?

[mtangelsfan]

1 minute ago, Tank said:

i went to whole foods market tonight. i did not see any "no guns allowed" signs. would i then be able to carry my weapon onto their property?

If I have a carry and conceal then yes.  If the owners tell me to leave I leave.

[UndertheHalo]

It seems wrong and backwards that someone should presume that it’s OK to bring a concealed weapon onto someone’s private property.  I get that’s it’s the way it is but it’s a shit way for things to operate.  Hopefully a visible notice that weapons are not welcome also equals felony trespassing if someone disregards. 

[mtangelsfan]

I agree with that last part.

[Jason]

49 minutes ago, Tank said:

i went to whole foods market tonight. i did not see any "no guns allowed" signs. would i then be able to carry my weapon onto their property?

 

47 minutes ago, mtangelsfan said:

If I have a carry and conceal then yes.  If the owners tell me to leave I leave.

When i took my CCW course that’s exactly what instructor told us. Only certain places like schools and federal buildings are always illegal to carry in. As far as a private business, you have to honor their wishes. If it’s posted, then go someplace else or secure it in your car. Any display of a firearm with a CCW permit equates to brandishing a weapon. The goal is for nobody else in public to know you have it. 

[Tank]

thanks for clarifying, jason.

[RallyMo]

18 hours ago, calscuf said:

James Woods probably isn’t the best source for anything. 

 

18 hours ago, Jason said:

He's not wrong

 

12 hours ago, LHalo said:

Yet that still does not dispute what James Woods said. He’s not wrong. 

He's not technically wrong, but he seems to be divorcing the spirit of the quoted item from its context in order to be right, and that's not at all the best look when you're trying to be clever.

I also don't think it's a good look to be needlessly defending him while he's doing that, but pick your battles as you like.

[Glen]

James Wood is the white Al Sharpton. 

[Lou]

On February 24, 2018 at 6:42 PM, Vegas Halo Fan said:

A letter that the NRA is using to threaten candidates for public office in Wisconsin.

I see nothing wrong with this.