Stanton wants out if they rebuild

[fan_since79]

16 hours ago, Dtwncbad said:

Yelich?  good idea.  Much cheaper right? In fact why not save even more than that and go find a .725 OPS guy who makes 5m?  No wait!  How about a .695 OPS guy for like 2m????

We have a .670 OPS guy who makes 25 mill. And he bats cleanup!

Lucky us.

 

[arch stanton]

You can't compare Pujols and Stanton like that. Albert was nicknamed the machine, Stanton actually looks like a machine. He's much more athletic. His power will hold up as long as his interest in hitting a baseball holds up and he should be able to run much better

[nando714]

What do we have to offer besides eating the contract

Dodgers can give them more rondons and eat cash

[Junkballer]

15 hours ago, m0nkey said:

Jeter said today he/the new ownership group will make "unpopular decisions" when it comes to the marlins.  Whatever that means.  Doubt anyone comes to the angels

Uh, then we want the paddleboard back.

[eaterfan]

1 minute ago, arch stanton said:

You can't compare Pujols and Stanton like that. Albert was nicknamed the machine, Stanton actually looks like a machine. He's much more athletic. His power will hold up as long as his interest in hitting a baseball holds up and he should be able to run much better

I wouldn't bet on Stanton holding up. He's played 150 games it more only twice in his whole career. 

I agree that Pujols isn't a great comparison. How about Josh Hamilton? Athletic, big power, injury prone. Drugs certainly got the early part of his career but he didn't make an AS game after his age 31 season.

[HaloCory22]

Maybe Jeter will give the Angels a discount and send us Stanton as a thank you for Jeter Night at the Big A.

[eaterfan]

2 hours ago, UndertheHalo said:

i'd be very surprised to see the Dodgers get Stanton.  It would be like the opposite of what Friedman brain trust has been building towards.

You mean a smart, well run organization wouldn't go after Stanton?

[VariousCrap]

3 hours ago, UndertheHalo said:

i'd be very surprised to see the Dodgers get Stanton.  It would be like the opposite of what Friedman brain trust has been building towards.

 

A Stanton in Dodger blue would be an exception to the rule for them.

[ettin]

For the record if Eppler chose to go after Stanton I think we have just as good a chance as any other team to acquire him if that is the teams goal.

[Hubs]

18 hours ago, Dtwncbad said:

He told Jon Heyman he wants no part of a rebuild and "I have lost for 7 years."

If they want to reduce payroll to rebuild the team, as they reportedly do, then this dude is getting traded in the next 3 months.

He is in his prime, prime years right now.

Go for it.  He is a beast.

Does anyone realize what kind of year Trout would have with Stanton behind him?

50 bombs?

.345/.440/.720?

 

If Stanton was healthy and played behind Trout, with Upton in there as well, Trout may hit .375 with a .500 OBP.

Same for Harper, obviously.

But Upton will be just fine.

 

[Hubs]

3 hours ago, stormngt said:

I would love him.  Doubt he have the assets to get him.   

Trade Calhoun, extend Upton and our offense is dominant.  We can go with Valbueno and Cowart if we have that kind of offensive production out of our outfield. I do question what it might do to our defense. 

Calhoun can play 1st if he wasn't included in the trade, which I believe he would be. This would start with Skaggs, Calhoun, Cron and Jones or Adell.

 

[eaterfan]

11 minutes ago, Hubs said:

If Stanton was healthy and played behind Trout, with Upton in there as well, Trout may hit .375 with a .500 OBP.

Same for Harper, obviously.

But Upton will be just fine.

 

Trout had his worst month of the season with Upton behind him. 

[Hubs]

8 minutes ago, eaterfan said:

Trout had his worst month of the season with Upton behind him. 

Post Hoc Ergo Propter Hoc. Logical Fallacy. The sample size is too small to say that was the cause. He also had the worst month of his season with Phillips hitting in front of him. Neither is necessarily the cause.

 

[Ace-Of-Diamonds]

1 hour ago, ettin said:

For the record if Eppler chose to go after Stanton I think we have just as good a chance as any other team to acquire him if that is the teams goal.

The length of the contact is going to be a turn off for a lot of teams.  Arte is going to be reluctant to go down that road again, IMO. I'm OK with it but it's not my money. Unless Upton opts out, I don't see any chance Eppler even tries to trade for Stanton. He may even try for J D Martinez if Upton does opt out, otherwise I think he will go for 2B and 3B replacements.

[NorCal Halo]

57 minutes ago, Hubs said:

Post Hoc Ergo Propter Hoc. Logical Fallacy.

Logic--not just for academicians anymore!

[ettin]

17 minutes ago, Ace-Of-Diamonds said:

The length of the contact is going to be a turn off for a lot of teams.  Arte is going to be reluctant to go down that road again, IMO. I'm OK with it but it's not my money. Unless Upton opts out, I don't see any chance Eppler even tries to trade for Stanton. He may even try for J D Martinez if Upton does opt out, otherwise I think he will go for 2B and 3B replacements.

Oh I agree Ace I was just sort of responding in general that if Eppler wanted that to happen we could do it I'm sure. I actually think we will go a slightly different route and I will share my thoughts on that in the Primer Series when it begins to come out in a few weeks.

[fan_since79]

Just a feeling, but I'd rather have J.D. Martinez than Stanton.

I don't think we're going to see 59 home runs again, and besides, Stanton is owed $285 million.

 

[eaterfan]

5 minutes ago, Hubs said:

Post Hoc Ergo Propter Hoc. Logical Fallacy. The sample size is too small to say that was the cause. He also had the worst month of his season with Phillips hitting in front of him. Neither is necessarily the cause.

 

Agreed. It's a bad argument based on bad math. But if you want to look at good math then there isn't much math that shows any evidence that protection effects an individual hitter's production. There's plenty to show that it remains basically the same.

https://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/what-would-lineup-protection-look-like/

Here's an example of that about MCab in 2012. There is also a more comprehensive Tom Tango study in it too.

[UndertheHalo]

3 hours ago, HaloCory22 said:

Maybe Jeter will give the Angels a discount and send us Stanton as a thank you for Jeter Night at the Big A.

It was a sweet surf board. 

[Mark68]

1 hour ago, ettin said:

Oh I agree Ace I was just sort of responding in general that if Eppler wanted that to happen we could do it I'm sure. I actually think we will go a slightly different route and I will share my thoughts on that in the Primer Series when it begins to come out in a few weeks.

Tease

[stormngt]

5 hours ago, eaterfan said:

No. Pujols made one AS team after his age 30 season. He finished in the top 10 of the MVP race only once after his age 30 season as well.

He had a much better track record heading into his age 30 season than Stanton has had too.

You missed my point.  I was referring Stanton performance would be all star level for six years prior to the Pujolsitus drop off you were referring to.  Stanton is only 28.  Pujols was 32.  Syanton conyeact ladt until 38.  Pujols until 41.  Age difference is big.  

[stormngt]

3 hours ago, Hubs said:

Calhoun can play 1st if he wasn't included in the trade, which I believe he would be. This would start with Skaggs, Calhoun, Cron and Jones or Adell.

 

I might be ok with that if it ended with 4

[NorCal Halo]

Shouldn't Eppler and Mike ask Trout who he wants to bat in front and behind him?  If the best player in baseball called and said you should come play for us, wouldn't most players be inclined to do so?

[eaterfan]

18 minutes ago, NorCal Halo said:

Shouldn't Eppler and Mike ask Trout who he wants to bat in front and behind him?  If the best player in baseball called and said you should come play for us, wouldn't most players be inclined to do so?

Why do we even have a GM? We should just let Trout make all the personnel decisions. 

[ettin]

48 minutes ago, Mark68 said:

Tease

You are one of my two regular readers Mark thank you for your support