Orange County Register: Angels Jered Weaver takes positives from minor league outing

[AngelsWin.com]

TEMPE, Ariz. – After his first competitive outing in 10 days, Jered Weaver reaffirmed his confidence about being in the Angels rotation on opening day.“Absolutely,” Weaver said after allowing three runs in four innings worth of work against...

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[Ace-Of-Diamonds]

I'm less confident than Weaver. 78-81mph isn't going to cut it. 3 runs in 4 innings in the minors is not good either.

[NrM]

TEMPE, Ariz. – After his first competitive outing in 10 days, Jered Weaver reaffirmed his confidence about being in the Angels rotation on opening day.“Absolutely,” Weaver said after allowing three runs in four innings worth of work against...

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Jered Weaver’s day is done: 4 IP, 3 R, ~7 H. He exhibited the same sort of velocity the rest of the way. I saw nothing that surpassed 81 mph

https://twitter.com/pedromoura/status/711664692440145920

 

What positives could be taken from that. 

Edited March 21, 2016 by Mr. Meeseeks

[laagamer]

I've umpired a decent amount of HS kids that throw harder than him. ****.

[Pujols4MVP]

Since his velocity is even worse than last year, how the phuk does Gubi think it's a positive on the post game show ? Can they trade Gubi to KC Royals for a bag of balls ?

[bloodbrother]

78-81 MPH still. Ooph

[Docwaukee]

he gave up 3 runs against an A ball team.  I think we can presume he will be starting the season on the DL.  

[Guest]

Put him in a little league game.

Edited March 21, 2016 by failos

[Quinlanforthewin]

This is gonna be a disaster if this team allows him to be in the starting rotation, just going to embarrass himself. 

[ukyah]

This is gonna be a disaster if this team allows him to be in the starting rotation, just going to embarrass himself. 

 

 

i agree wholeheartedly. unfortunately, it's safe to say that it's one he's going to visit upon himself. for many athletes the hubris of their success clouds their reality, it's part of what made them great in their heyday. i think pujols is another example.

[Ace-Of-Diamonds]

 

 i think pujols is another example.

 

 

Pujols may not be the the player he was in St. Louis, but he still had a season last year that many younger players would be happy with. The problem is he is paid $20M more than them. It's Albert's salary and the number of years he has left that make him look bad.

[ukyah]

 

Pujols may not be the the player he was in St. Louis, but he still had a season last year that many younger players would be happy with. The problem is he is paid $20M more than them. It's Albert's salary and the number of years he has left that make him look bad.

 

 

 

you misunderstand, i'm saying in his future when it's time to retire.

Edited March 21, 2016 by ukyah

[Redondo]

he gave up 3 runs against an A ball team.  I think we can presume he will be starting the season on the DL.  

 

+1

 

Really can't see him getting any starts with these kind of numbers

[Glen]

He'll be our #5 starter for the first month.

[Mark68]

I hardly see where allowing 3 runs and 7 hits against minor leaguers while not exceeding 81 mph is an encouraging sign. For anybody. Except Gubi.

 

Maybe Jamie Moyer, but that's about it.

 

Hell, I'm guessing 69 year old Nolan Ryan can still exceed 81.

[bloodbrother]

I will be surprised if he's not in the rotation to open the year.

[ukyah]

I will be surprised if he's not in the rotation to open the year.

 

 

me too. we're talking about weaver, scioscia and the angels here. he'll start the 2nd game of the season.

[zenmaster]

I guess the positive sign is that he didn't go lower than his last game which he could hit 78 consistently.

 

I'm pretty sure he is nearing as hard as I can throw and I haven't thrown a ball in 10 years.

[Troll Daddy]

I'm always confused at the notion of Scioscia getting the blame for playing veterans with large contracts.

[Angelsjunky]

Jered's stats over the last five years:

ERA: 2.41, 2.81, 3.27, 3.59, 4.64

Average Fastball velocity: 89.2, 88, 86.8, 86.8, 84.9

 

So notice how he went down in steps, with a big drop off in 2015 in both ERA (over a run) and velocity (almost 2 mph). If he really is maxing out in the 81-83 change, chances are his average velocity will drop at least 2 more mph.

 

Before ST I was thinking he'd struggle to have an ERA below 5.00. Now I'm thinking he might struggle to have one below 6.00.

[bloodbrother]

Don't know how high it'll be but I think it will be 5+ as well. The question is how many starts does Weav get and when/whom finally makes the decision to pull him from the rotation. I think we're looking at him getting at least 8-10 starts

[Mark68]

Jered's stats over the last five years:

ERA: 2.41, 2.81, 3.27, 3.59, 4.64

Average Fastball velocity: 89.2, 88, 86.8, 86.8, 84.9

 

So notice how he went down in steps, with a big drop off in 2015 in both ERA (over a run) and velocity (almost 2 mph). If he really is maxing out in the 81-83 change, chances are his average velocity will drop at least 2 more mph.

 

Before ST I was thinking he'd struggle to have an ERA below 5.00. Now I'm thinking he might struggle to have one below 6.00.

Just as point of comparison, his FIP over those years:

 

3.20/3.75/3.82/4.19/4.81

 

He's always ended up with better stats than he should have...but it finally caught up with him last year.

[zenmaster]

I'll be shocked if his ERA is under 10.

[Angelsjunky]

Ouch.

[Wallerrrr]

Someone find Jeff...