Good work, NRA

[Angelsjunky]

This is a terrible correlation. Blaming the NRA for this is like blaming a sports owner for a fan getting in a fight.

 

No its not.

[mtangelsfan]

Yes, it is.

[nate]

This is a terrible correlation. Blaming the NRA for this is like blaming a sports owner for a fan getting in a fight.

 

Not at all.  The NRA and the gun lobby has given millions of dollars lobbying against background checks.  They have fought against background checks at guns hows every single time that it has possibly become law.

 

Anyway, the true people to blame are all the idiots that vote for the congressmen and senators that take all this money from the gun lobby.

[mtangelsfan]

Please, congress is bought and paid for by legion of interests. Sure, we can say we keep voting for idiots and whores, but they don't have a lot of choices.

Regardless, can we start holding the right people accountable? Or are we continue to allow people to blame others for their own failures.

[arch stanton]

How can you take this list seriously when there's 700,000 names on it? It's a watch list, not a list of people who have done anything illegal. Does anyone who's complaining about this even know what activities can get you on the list?

[Amazing Larry]

How can you take this list seriously when there's 700,000 names on it? It's a watch list, not a list of people who have done anything illegal. Does anyone who's complaining about this even know what activities can get you on the list?

Wiping your ass with your bare left hand is one of them.

[Tank]

Please, congress is bought and paid for by legion of interests. Sure, we can say we keep voting for idiots and whores, but they don't have a lot of choices.

Regardless, can we start holding the right people accountable? Or are we continue to allow people to blame others for their own failures.

 

in watching trump and carson dance around answering the question this morning, what struck me so strongly is that the reason they couldn't/wouldn't come out and say people on the watch list shouldn't be able to buy guns is because they didn't want to offend the NRA. i can't prove it and i don't know what kind of money the NRA has sent their way, but it sure looked uncomfortable and very suspicious.

[nate]

You can't win in the south without the support of the NRA

If the NRA gives you a bad rating your opponents will blast you with negative ads paid for by the gun lobby.

Edited November 23, 2015 by nate

[Adam]

You can't win in the south without the support of the NRA

If the NRA gives you a bad rating your opponents will blast you with negative ads paid for by the gun lobby.

It sounds like the voters in the south need to be convinced that a different POV in guns is better.

[nate]

The collective IQ of the south is probably about the same as the average kindergarten class elsewhere so I doubt it.  As long as they run ads saying that X candidate is coming for your guns and you will never be safe again and these people believe it then it will continue to work.

[mtangelsfan]

The collective IQ of the south is probably about the same as the average kindergarten class elsewhere so I doubt it.  As long as they run ads saying that X candidate is coming for your guns and you will never be safe again and these people believe it then it will continue to work.

 

Nate's all about tolerance and being excellent to one another..........................................

 

 

 

 

well, at least to those who agree with him.

[Tank]

but i don't think nate's wrong on this issue. the nra has the ability to make things very difficult for candidates who don't support them.

[mtangelsfan]

but i don't think nate's wrong on this issue. the nra has the ability to make things very difficult for candidates who don't support them.

 

As does any lobbying organization that is good at its job.

 

I think the power the NRA has is that there is still a large number of states where its' citizens still want their gun rights.  Their only power is that the issue is important to a whole lot of people.  This isn't a group of bazillionairs either, it is mostly middle and lower class folks who support the NRA.

[nate]

Don't fool yourself.  They get their money not from gun owners but gun manufacturers who have a lot to lose if guns are more regulated.

[mtangelsfan]

Fair enough, but they are still no different than any other lobbying group.

[Amazing Larry]

Don't fool yourself.  They get their money not from gun owners but gun manufacturers who have a lot to lose if guns are more regulated.

 

How do the gun manufacturers have so much money? Is it maybe because people buy guns?

[Jay]

Truth. 

 

I don't have to tolerate the willfully bigoted and ignorant. The south is a horrible place that has been holding this country back for centuries.

 

holding it back from what?

[nate]

progress

[mtangelsfan]

progress

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Your feelings for those who think differently than you are no better than those you rail against.

[nate]

The murder rate in the US is far higher than any other first world country.  You don't think that is a problem?  Know what the common denominator is?  Gun control.

[Hollyw00d]

How do the gun manufacturers have so much money? Is it maybe because people buy guns?

The military buys a fair amount of guns

[Blarg]

The murder rate in the US is far higher than any other first world country.  You don't think that is a problem?  Know what the common denominator is?  Gun control.

 

You're saying we're number 1!

[Hollyw00d]

If I could call in artillery on a deer, I would

[Guest]

Obama's too busy fighting cops, he doesn't have time to fight the NRA.

lol you're such a caricature. It's entertaining, though.

[ten ocho recon scout]

If I could call in artillery on a deer, I would

airburst. If you request det on contact you wont be able to mount the antlers afterwards.