SCOTUS: Same Sex Marriage Legal Nationwide

[TobiasFunke]

You sure are something special Juan

[Schildog]

You can't have a few unaccountable people decide the ordering of the societal structure and then expect people to just acquiesce. 

 

i guess article iii doesn't apply in your mind.

[mtangelsfan]

Juan is the outlier in aw spin stats.

[Rico]

Didn't she convert after the cheating? Besides, maybe she feels bad about the cheating, repentant. Do you know that she thinks her cheating was OK?

Does it matter?  We mock her for her cheating, but that is not the reason we don't like her.

[Glen]

1. You're generalizing.

2. You're assuming to know what people are concerned about.

At this point your complete lack of self-awareness has to be a shtick.

[Angelsjunky]

I'm actually impressed with Juan's ability to unite the rest of the forum.

[TobiasFunke]

I'm the Wes Mantooth to Juan Burgandy (see what I did there)

[juansavage1]

Does it matter?  We mock her for her cheating, but that is not the reason we don't like her.

It's a shotgun strategy. 

[juansavage1]

At this point your complete lack of self-awareness has to be a shtick.

I wanted to warn him before you tore into his generalizing and assuming. 

[Vegas Halo Fan]

Both the abortion and marriage decision were similar in that they had nothing to do with the constitution as written and as intended by the writers. 

 

Apparently you know something that the Supreme Court doesn't.

[nate]

No I prefer anarchy. That's such an open ended question. What's your position on whether or not someone doing the job they were hired/appointed to do?

 

I lol'd

[juansavage1]

Apparently you know something that the Supreme Court doesn't.

I know what the four dissenters on the Supreme Court know and articulate and the others know and hide- the constitution doesn't demand any particular marriage policy. As evidence, I use the sappy majority decision. 

[Angelsjunky]

It still boggles my mind that some people, presumably mainly for religious reasons, care about gay marriage. It is such a non-issue. Who cares? There are so many more important issues - poverty, violence, over-population, climate change, energy, etc.

[juansavage1]

Of the issues you mentioned, poverty and violence are directly related to marriage. Overpopulation is not a real issue, although underpopulation is in the first world, where the lack of children is a severe economic and cultural problem. That also has to do with marriage. Climate change is not a real issue except as a way to push another agenda. So, pretty much there's no more important issue than marriage.

It still boggles my mind that some people, presumably mainly for religious reasons, care about gay marriage. It is such a non-issue. Who cares? There are so many more important issues - poverty, violence, over-population, climate change, energy, etc.

[halobob]

I'm so happy Juan Savage doesn't make the rules.  

[juansavage1]

What bad things are going to happen if we don't stop global warming?

[Schildog]

Juan Savage Dan Savage

Think about it

[Tank]

overpopulation is not a problem?

 

sorry juan, you lost me on that one.

[Vegas Halo Fan]

What bad things are going to happen if we don't stop global warming?

 

Nothing, if you don't mind living underwater. Or you want to be able to grow crops.

[Vegas Halo Fan]

overpopulation is not a problem?

 

sorry juan, you lost me on that one.

 

He means that his house isn't overcrowded.

[Rico]

although underpopulation is in the first world, where the lack of children is a severe economic and cultural problem.

 

Well then thankfully as a first world country we get plenty of immigration (legal and otherwise)  to off-set any of your under population concerns.  

[Angelsjunky]

Of the issues you mentioned, poverty and violence are directly related to marriage. Overpopulation is not a real issue, although underpopulation is in the first world, where the lack of children is a severe economic and cultural problem. That also has to do with marriage. Climate change is not a real issue except as a way to push another agenda. So, pretty much there's no more important issue than marriage.

 

 

Wow. This is almost brilliant in how completely opposite of reality it is, sort of like the worst of Fox News ranters.

 

Anyhow, please tell me how legal gay marriage impacts your life in any way, and/or negatively impacts American society in any way.

[TobiasFunke]

overpopulation is not a problem?

sorry juan, you lost me on that one.

That's because you're just another believer of the lame stream media

[juansavage1]

overpopulation is not a problem?

 

sorry juan, you lost me on that one.

Overpopulation isn't a problem. I suppose it's easy to say that people with problems wouldn't have problems if they didn't exist, but the cause of their problems isn't overpopulation, it's most often the political situation. 

 

Second, in the rich world, of which we are a part, the problem is decreasing population. It's the cause of the retirement system and immigration problems in Europe and is one of the main reasons Japan is declining economically. It's also a looming problem for China, Korea, etc. This is a problem the governments have recognized and why they've encouraged larger families. 

 

http://theweek.com/articles/453219/everything-need-know-about-japans-population-crisis

[juansavage1]

Wow. This is almost brilliant in how completely opposite of reality it is, sort of like the worst of Fox News ranters.

 

Anyhow, please tell me how legal gay marriage impacts your life in any way, and/or negatively impacts American society in any way.

I don't want to start this again, but: 

 

How it impacts me: 

 

I am part of the culture. When the culture moves from relationships based on biological reality and purpose to one based on emotion and benefits (benefits that used to serve a purpose), it becomes harder to impart those values on one's children, etc. It also becomes harder or illegal to hold traditional beliefs in marriage. 

 

How it impacts my society: 

 

We've seen that non-traditional attitudes towards marriage result in, surprise, less marriage. People who hold the view that marriage is just another level of boyfriend or for medical benefits are less keen on marrying. We now have whole societies that are in what people are calling  "post-marriage." This has a profound impact on children and society. 

 

To counter this, I see NO benefit whatsoever to society for letting people of the same sex "marry."

 

I answered the question. Now, a question for you and I hope you answer the question as directly as I did: 

 

How does multiple partner marriage, transhuman marriage, and inanimate object marriage affect you or society?