That was so damn stupid

[mancini79]

I'm sure that information can be found, but I don't know where, and it's too late tonight for me to try and search for it.

 

Here you go:

http://www.baseball-reference.com/leagues/MLB/2015-baserunning-batting.shtml

 

So not counting tonight's game, the Angels have 20 outs. There are 4 other teams with more outs. But it doesn't have a percentage. For example Detroit has more outs but have had more base runners.

[NrM]

Okay so I found what I was looking for.

 

The Angels have run into the 4th most outs in the MLB.

And they rank 21st in SB%. If it weren't for Trout, their SB% would be dead last at like  20%

 

http://www.baseball-reference.com/leagues/MLB/2015-baserunning-batting.shtml

Edited May 5, 2015 by Poozy

[NrM]

Here you go:

http://www.baseball-reference.com/leagues/MLB/2015-baserunning-batting.shtml

 

So not counting tonight's game, the Angels have 20 outs. There are 4 other teams with more outs. But it doesn't have a percentage. For example Detroit has more outs but have had more base runners.

Beat me to it.

 

Ah okay you were combining caught steals with OOB

Edited May 5, 2015 by Poozy

[Blarg]

I'm not even going to bother reading this thread, Doc's OP pretty much started and ended it.

[Lou]

If I was a betting man, I'd say the Angels have run into the most outs in baseball. That falls completely on scioscia.

 

so all those times Aybar and Pujols decide to take the extra base, or the idiot 3rd base coach sends the runner, it's  Scioscia's fault?

 

ok, got it 

[Lou]

I'm not even going to bother reading this thread, Doc's OP pretty much started and ended it.

 

started? yes

 

ended?  no

 

i suggest you read the thread

[Lou]

Okay so I found what I was looking for.

 

The Angels have run into the 4th most outs in the MLB.

And they rank 21st in SB%. If it weren't for Trout, their SB% would be dead last at like  20%

 

http://www.baseball-reference.com/leagues/MLB/2015-baserunning-batting.shtml

 

ok, now subtract the best basestealer on every other team and give us the rankings

[NrM]

so all those times Aybar and Pujols decide to take the extra base, or the idiot 3rd base coach sends the runner, it's  Scioscia's fault?

 

ok, got it 

 

I believe the manager is responsible for instilling a smart and disciplined base running team. 

Edited May 5, 2015 by Poozy

[Jason]

I turned it off as soon as Cruz hit the HR. Apparently I made a wise choice and saved myself some frustration.

[fan_since79]

Babe Ruth made the last out of the 1926 World Series trying to steal second base. In Game 7, no less, with the Yankees down one run to St. Louis.

[Chuck]

it needs it's own thread.  

 

Holy shit balls that was special.  very very special.  

 

I missed the game. What happened?

[Troll Daddy]

I must admit I was shocked and disappointed but sometimes you got to force the action.

That's baseball

[fan_since79]

I missed the game. What happened?

 

We played Angels baseball.

[Chuck]

We played Angels baseball.

 

Other than that. What happened?

[AngelsSurfer]

The last out in the game was Colin Cowgill getting caught stealing...when the tying run for the game was at the plate and the Mariners' pitcher was struggling. Jury's out on whether Cowgill took off on his own (doubtful), whether he had the green light (why) or whether Scioscia just threw him under the bus (my vote).

[halobob]

Other than that. What happened?

The Mariners had a fever, and the only prescription was running Cowgill.

[fan_since79]

Other than that. What happened?

 

Cowgill tested Zunino's arm and failed, then got thrown under the bus by the skipper.

 

edit: may or may not have been thrown under the bus. Jury's still out.

Edited May 5, 2015 by fan_since79

[Chuck]

The last out in the game was Colin Cowgill getting caught stealing...when the tying run for the game was at the plate and the Mariners' pitcher was struggling. Jury's out on whether Cowgill took off on his own (doubtful), whether he had the green light (why) or whether Scioscia just threw him under the bus (my vote).

 

thx

[Mark68]

Other than that. What happened?

Cowgill caught stealing second, by a mile, with Cron at the plate and two outs in the bottom of the 9th.

[Blarg]

started? yes

 

ended?  no

 

i suggest you read the thread

I followed your suggestion.

That was time wasted.

[fan_since79]

The last out in the game was Colin Cowgill getting caught stealing...when the tying run for the game was at the plate and the Mariners' pitcher was struggling. Jury's out on whether Cowgill took off on his own (doubtful), whether he had the green light (why) or whether Scioscia just threw him under the bus (my vote).

 Winning run was at the plate, tying run was Cowgill.

[Angel Oracle]

If the Angels really want to be aggressive on the base paths, like you, I'm fine with it...But don't wait until the freakin' 9th with 2 outs and the winning run at the plate.

Quite possibly the worst time to start running aggressively.

I would like to know the last time a guy made the last out of the game trying to steal 2nd base. Complete ass-hatted decision.

This made me laugh, how very true. And we were just talking about how there aren't many good catchers in the game, but I can tell you one thing, it certainly seems a majority of them perform better than Iannetta both defensively and offensively.

Taking a step back, maybe they were trying to catch them off guard? But IMO as a former catcher, I'd be watching that runner relentlessly after they put on a pinch runner, EVEN MORE SO during the first pitch of the freaking at bat. The commentators even said this after the game, Rodney actually has a pretty quick move home, so it's not like a stolen base was a given by any means.

I might trust Aybar there, but definitely not a cold pinch runner.

Conjecture exists, but supposedly Babe Ruth was caught stealing to end the 1926 WS with the Cards winning it.

[stormngt]

Agreed. I was stunned when I saw it happen. The offense is so bad they are making moves. Such as last night

it needs it's own thread.

Holy shit balls that was special. very very special.

[stormngt]

It was a stupid move last night but the comments here ate beyond stupid.

You could put literally any other manager in baseball as the manager last year and this team wins probably wins 100 games.

[mp170.6]

It was a stupid move last night but the comments here ate beyond stupid.

 

 

I guess that includes your comments too?