Are Shields or Scherzer

[nando714]

Ever going to sign anywhere anytime soon?

[ukyah]

no. they've both retired and are not pursuing any further baseball opportunities, until further notice.

[Adam]

Yep. Probably in the next couple weeks

[DMVol]

Boras has Scherzer and his guys never sign early....sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't---Santana, Drew, Kendrys played the wait it out game last year and it didn't work out so well.....

[Angel Oracle]

It seems that Boras has ignored the lack of contract for the aforementioned players.

Granted Scherzer is in the elite class of pitchers currently, but for how much longer will that be the case?

Teams are increasingly putting more of their money into the under age 30 players.

Edited January 7, 2015 by Angel Oracle

[SoWhat]

I don't see Max getting the 200 mill he wants, I bet he returns to Detroit and takes the offer they gave him early in 2014.

[wopphil]

I don't see Max getting the 200 mill he wants, I bet he returns to Detroit and takes the offer they gave him early in 2014.

I agree this is the most likely outcome. Maybe they allow him to save face by giving him a little more, such as what Lester got.

[laagamer]

They'll both sign & some team will give them everything they want and more.

[ELEVEN]

I still think the Yankees will get one of them. Boston will probably then get the other.

[Richard]

LOL Tigers:

 

@jonmorosi  22m22 minutes ago

Of interest on Scherzer/Shields, Tigers official told me today: "We are happy with our starting pitching. We are not pursuing any starters."

[TroutCron]

Boras is not finding any teams to go against Detroit. He needs the Yanks, Red Sox or Dodgers ( or God forbid Arte) to inflate Sherzer's worth. I think he resigns witth the Tigers but not for more than 7/175.

[Angel Oracle]

It's hard for me to see someone paid so much for essentially three really good seasons, when he has pitched some 1300 MLB innings including the post-season and turns 31 during the middle of the 2015 season.   

 

Lester has been more proven, and has a less violent delivery.   Both are of similar age as well, granted Lester has pitched 450 more MLB innings including the post-season.

 

To me anyway, Scherzer should be paid 5 years/$135 million and not a cent more and not any longer length of contract. 

And I would still be hesitant to sign him at that, given our rotten luck recently with big money signings.

Edited January 8, 2015 by Angel Oracle

[Vegas Halo Fan]

And I would still be hesitant to sign him at that, given our rotten luck recently with big money signings.

 

Are you saying that we have some bad contracts?

[Stradling]

It's hard for me to see someone paid so much for essentially three really good seasons, when he has pitched some 1300 MLB innings including the post-season and turns 31 during the middle of the 2015 season.

Lester has been more proven, and has a less violent delivery. Both are of similar age as well, granted Lester has pitched 450 more MLB innings including the post-season.

To me anyway, Scherzer should be paid 5 years/$135 million and not a cent more and not any longer length of contract.

And I would still be hesitant to sign him at that, given our rotten luck recently with big money signings.

You'd pay him $27 million a year? Wow.

[QuinlansMinion]

I kind of want Sherzer now just because of this boring off season.  Wouldnt hurt to get another top level starter.  

[Stradling]

I agree with you, I would like Scherzer, even though it would be an overpay.

[wopphil]

I agree with you, I would like Scherzer, even though it would be an overpay.

I wouldn't object to Scherzer at 6/150. Weaver and Wilson will be off the books in two years, and we have enough young pitching depth to carry an overpaid vet if Scherzer declines a bit.

[Stradling]

With a move like that we would have incredible pitching depth. It would almost certainly mean a CJ trade is happening. It would also allow the Angels to move an arm for a 3rd base prospect.

[ten ocho recon scout]

I wouldnt complain if we got him...it would be stupid, but for the near term it would be fun.

Id prefer the money to go to moncada though personally...

[nando714]

I wouldn't mind Scherzer at all either

[Angel Oracle]

You'd pay him $27 million a year? Wow.

But for only 5 years, subtracting two years that could well turn into crap as he would be 36/37 in those seasons.

And I did say I would still be hesitant to do that.

[ten ocho recon scout]

Lets be honest, it wouldnt be a smart move to sign sherzer long term. Assuming the money would handcuff us, his decline, etc, it would be 'unwise'.

That said, you could say that about the majority of FA signings. It would improve us now. It would be cool to see it happen. Neither of those make it 'worth' doing though.

Like insaid, im neutral. I wouldnt like what it means long term, but would get excited for the next 2-3 years of him.

(Chances of it happening are zero anyway)

[Angel Oracle]

I can imagine the sweat running down Boras' face now.    ST is only 5+ weeks away, and still no new contract for Scherzer. 

[ukyah]

I can imagine the sweat running down Boras' face now.    ST is only 5+ weeks away, and still no new contract for Scherzer. 

 

someone is going to come out of nowhere and just suddenly give him 175+ million dollars. it's going to happen.

[19HALO71]

LOL Tigers:

 

@jonmorosi  22m22 minutes ago

Of interest on Scherzer/Shields, Tigers official told me today: "We are happy with our starting pitching. We are not pursuing any starters."

 

If this is true, offer Scherzer 4/120, take it or leave it.Give him the opportunity to rub it in Detroits face with a team that is going to be competitive.