Jung-Ho Kang

[Angel Oracle]

I am loving Perez' game more and more.    Dude even has a little speed, beating out a slow roller easily yesterday.

[Angel Oracle]

That is one of my big concerns Doc.

It's like we seemingly don't even try more than half-heartedly to bring in foreign talent.

 

Baldoquin and his sub .600 OPS in a hitters' high-A league is all we have to show for foreign acquisitions the past several years.

[Tyler]

Nah, we also have big, bad Kubitza for Ricardo Sanchez.

[Homebrewer]

I am loving Perez' game more and more. Dude even has a little speed, beating out a slow roller easily yesterday.>>>>>

He's even impressing Scioscia...

http://www.latimes.com/sports/sportsnow/la-sp-sn-carlos-perez-nice-catch-for-angels-20150915-story.html

[Stradling]

Way to go Dipoto???

Yeah, that Conger for Tropeano and Perez trade really sucked ass, didn't it?

All of the credit none of the blame.

[Homebrewer]

It is what it is, you can spin it any way you want to.

[Inside Pitch]

All of the credit none of the blame.

 

Teflon....  always and forever....

[Stradling]

It is what it is, you can spin it any way you want to.

I've spun it today, multiple times in multiple threads. Jerry did good things, Jerry did bad things, pretty simple.

[Chuck]

I'm sure even Dipoto if he was still with the Angels would take ALL of the blame.

 

But we know better. The blame is split across the board. Players, Circumstances, Injuries, Owner, Manager and yes, the GM. 

 

You're just trolling if you put the blame on one guy, one group. Sorry. 

[Homebrewer]

Fact is Dipoto's successes far outweigh any mistakes...and not scouting a Korean player isn't even on the list of failures.

[Chuck]

Fact is Dipoto's successes far outweigh any mistakes...and not scouting a Korean player isn't even on the list of failures.

 

We didn't have a scouting presence in Asia to be honest.

 

From what I know, Arte isn't sold on the talent

[Stradling]

Fact is Dipoto's successes far outweigh any mistakes....

And the same could be said for Scioscia.

[Homebrewer]

That's the way It has seemed.

The scouting dept has been trimmed rather than expanded, and that's a shame.

It needs to change.

[Homebrewer]

IMO (and I assume I am not alone) the "Goal" is not just to slog through the long season.

The "Goal" is to win in the post season.

As far as I can see, Scioscia has not met the goals set by a top notch baseball organization.

 

Employees that don't fulfill the goals set by the owners and the customers usually pay the price.

But not in Arte-land, for whatever reason.

[Homebrewer]

Remember Torii Hunter?

Remember when he went on a tirade calling out "Everyone, and I don't just mean the players" for "Going through the motions"

Remember how they told Torii soon after that, they just didn't have the money to keep him?

Remember how they then went out and signed Josh Hamilton?

 

Those were good times.. 

[Docwaukee]

We didn't have a scouting presence in Asia to be honest.

 

From what I know, Arte isn't sold on the talent

It'd be awesome if he let his baseball people advise him on that.  If they are the ones influencing this attitude, then he needs to get some new baseball people.  

 

I can understand avoiding the somewhat unsavory latin markets, but to disregard a potential talent pool as a whole is kooky talk.  

[tomsred]

I've spun it today, multiple times in multiple threads. Jerry did good things, Jerry did bad things, pretty simple.

It was an interesting book, but the last chapter stunk.

[Stradling]

IMO (and I assume I am not alone) the "Goal" is not just to slog through the long season.

The "Goal" is to win in the post season.

As far as I can see, Scioscia has not met the goals set by a top notch baseball organization.

Employees that don't fulfill the goals set by the owners and the customers usually pay the price.

But not in Arte-land, for whatever reason.

ok so Dipoto and Scioscia failed.

[Chuck]

It'd be awesome if he let his baseball people advise him on that.  If they are the ones influencing this attitude, then he needs to get some new baseball people.  

 

I can understand avoiding the somewhat unsavory latin markets, but to disregard a potential talent pool as a whole is kooky talk.  

 

I agree. Arte is pretty stubborn though from what I understand.

[Inside Pitch]

It'd be awesome if he let his baseball people advise him on that.  If they are the ones influencing this attitude, then he needs to get some new baseball people.  

 

I can understand avoiding the somewhat unsavory latin markets, but to disregard a potential talent pool as a whole is kooky talk.  

 

The Angels under Stoneman had scouts in  both Asia and Australia -- they had one scout in the Netherlands as well.   It's long been forgotten but the Angels made a push and a substantial offer to sign Yu Darvish when he was coming out of HS, he ultimately chose to stay in Japan.   

When the Clay Daniel scandal broke all the international scouts were reassigned, the Aussie scout went to Seattle and currently works for the Dodgers.  

Edited September 16, 2015 by Inside Pitch

[Angel Oracle]

Seems to me that Arte Moreno runs this franchise as an extension of his advertising empire.

And as a result, not much that he does makes ANY sense whatsoever in a baseball way!

 

Although if true, someone needs to remind him how many people from Latin America and Asia now live here.

Ghost Pujols is ONE player, and a vastly declining one at that!

Edited September 17, 2015 by Angel Oracle

[Homebrewer]

So, Arte never really liked Matsui?

I still miss saying...Shiga....toshi Hasa...gawa

 

Good times!

[ABC]

We didn't have a scouting presence in Asia to be honest.

 

From what I know, Arte isn't sold on the talent

 

As much as I liked Arte as the owner my opinion now is that he is a significant problem with the organization with regards to the roster composition. 

[Stradling]

Ghost Pujols is ONE player, and a vastly declining one at that!

Well if we are being truthful Ghost Pujols isn't even a player, he is a nickname.

[tdawg87]

I hear Ghost Pujols is the hottest kind of Pujols on the planet