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What players would the Phillies want for Jonny Paps?


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declining fastball velocity for the 3rd strait year.  94.8mph in 2010, 2011.  93.8 in 2012. 92.0 in 2013, and 91.4 this year

 

decreasing K rate.  lower than usual BABIP.  Has yet to give up a hr this year.

 

6mil left for 2014, 13mil for 2015 (age 34), 13mil vesting option for 2016 (age 35).  

 

known to be a nozzle in the clubhouse

 

this has bear trap written all over it.   

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The Angels need all the prospects they can get and aren't short on money. If Papelbon can slip into the 8th inning and shut things down then I say do it.

this where im at.

Not saying it should be papelbon. But like the dogs offloading bostons anchor, I say we at least kick the tires on lee or hamels just based on us agreeing to take the salary (as bad as it is). Hemels would be tougher, and price will cost too much in terms of prospects (who we dont have). But eating a chunk of money (which we do) in order to keep the prospects going over low is a good thing, IMO

Would love to see cinc fall further back and maybe see what cueto would cost (hes a FA after the season)

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I don't mind Pap in theory.  As others have pointed out, he will cost more in $ then prospects.  I haven't looked at the advanced metrics, but I don't really see much of a decline.  If anything, he has been consistently very good and durable.  That said, he'll cost $13M next season and has a fairly obtainable vesting option for 2016 (if he finishes 55 games next season) at another $13M.  That's some serious coin for a RP.  If Phi is willing to take a nobody prospect and eat a chunk of the salary, I think this is a better option then Street.  

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declining fastball velocity for the 3rd strait year.  94.8mph in 2010, 2011.  93.8 in 2012. 92.0 in 2013, and 91.4 this year

 

decreasing K rate.  lower than usual BABIP.  Has yet to give up a hr this year.

 

6mil left for 2014, 13mil for 2015 (age 34), 13mil vesting option for 2016 (age 35).  

 

known to be a nozzle in the clubhouse

 

this has bear trap written all over it.   

 

Yep.

 

Please stay farrr away, Dipoto.

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The Angels need all the prospects they can get and aren't short on money. If Papelbon can slip into the 8th inning and shut things down then I say do it.

 

 

if you think papelbon would be open to being a setup man, then you don't know papelbon.

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