Uh oh...Iraq

[fan_since79]

At any moment that thing could have zapped Kirk into oblivion. But no, it has to stand there and have a conversation.

[Jay]

"Everything I say is a lie"

[Hollyw00d]

We're practicing isolationism right now.

We've isolated ourselves from our closest allies with this ridiculous red herring "war on terror", we've isolated ourselves from the rest of the free world with our borderline police state domestic policies, we've isolated ourselves from the global economy with rampant outsourcing and sanctions on any country that doesn't bend to our will. We've isolated ourselves from the ideals the founding fathers had for America and it's people.

America is more isolated now more than ever. Our government has declared war on the globe, and nobody is going to stand in its way, apparently. Not even the American people.

[fan_since79]

"Everything I say is a lie"

 

Who's that, Obama or Kirk?

 

Sorry, couldn't resist.

[mtangelsfan]

We're practicing isolationism right now.

We've isolated ourselves from our closest allies with this ridiculous red herring "war on terror", we've isolated ourselves from the rest of the free world with our borderline police state domestic policies, we've isolated ourselves from the global economy with rampant outsourcing and sanctions on any country that doesn't bend to our will. We've isolated ourselves from the ideals the founding fathers had for America and it's people.

America is more isolated now more than ever. Our government has declared war on the globe, and nobody is going to stand in its way, apparently. Not even the American people.

This part of your statement isn't really making sense.

[Hollyw00d]

Yes it makes no sense that companies that started in America are moving operations and manufacturing overseas and becoming not American is hurting this country.

Edited September 23, 2014 by Hollyw00d

[Hollyw00d]

Everything I said it absolutely true, your nitpicking aside.

[mtangelsfan]

Yes it makes no sense that companies that started in America are moving operations and manufacturing overseas and becoming not American is hurting this country.

 

actually outsourcing, right or wrong, makes us more part of the global economy, not less.  I don't think that is nitpicky at all.  Of course I don't believe that outsourcing is the evil thing that Obama any clearly you believe it is.  Especially not for the people who get those jobs.

[fan_since79]

Nitpicking is a hobby for a lot of folks on this site.

 

As well as bookmarking posts and then throwing them in your face six months later.

[mtangelsfan]

LOL

 

"2 + 2 = 4,  4 + 4=8, 8 + 8 =13, 13 + 13 = 26"

 

"8 + 8 does not equal 13"

 

"Stop nitpicking!"

[Hollyw00d]

actually outsourcing, right or wrong, makes us more part of the global economy, not less.  I don't think that is nitpicky at all.  Of course I don't believe that outsourcing is the evil thing that Obama any clearly you believe it is.  Especially not for the people who get those jobs.

Moving away jobs, production, and capital from American soil makes us more part of the global economy? How so? It makes other countries has a bigger part in the economy, that's for sure. How does it help America?

Some kids in the Philippines working in sweat shops for Nike, old navy, etc. for less than a dollar a day, oh yeah I'm sure they appreciate that wonderful opportunity

[fan_since79]

Or the women in China who work seven days a week, 14 hours a day, making cheap clothing for American consumers. What a wonderful global economy.

 

http://www.hiddenmysteries.org/news/asia/china/111101b.html

Edited September 23, 2014 by fan_since79

[mtangelsfan]

Moving away jobs, production, and capital from American soil makes us more part of the global economy? How so? It makes other countries has a bigger part in the economy, that's for sure. How does it help America?

Some kids in the Philippines working in sweat shops for Nike, old navy, etc. for less than a dollar a day, oh yeah I'm sure they appreciate that wonderful opportunity

 

Your view of outsourcing is very limited.  Ever visited any place of work that american companies own overseas?  In most cases the people that work there make more than 5 to 10 times what other people in their country make.  I can tell you those mean a world of difference to them, what would be minimum wage jobs here, or close to it put those folks in the middle class from poverty. 

 

Anyway, this disucssion is for another thread.

[nate]

Problem is that we import a lot more than we export.

[mtangelsfan]

Problem is that we import a lot more than we export.

 

Of course, because the last two generations don't want to work in factories and make stuff. 

[nate]

We should be more focused on that than bombing a terrorist group halfway around the world.

[mtangelsfan]

Should be a lot of things we are more focused on. 

[Lhalo]

Problem is that we import a lot more than we export.

 

We agree on that.

 

I assume we don't agree on the reason for that however.

[Jay]

[TobiasFunke]

I think i've played that level on CoD

[Hollyw00d]

Damn airstrike spammer

[nate]

We agree on that.

 

I assume we don't agree on the reason for that however.

 

I don't think I could give a simple answer.

 

Nothing as simple as lowering taxes.

 

I think a combination of education, training, and incentives to hire and manufacture domestically.

[Hollyw00d]

a small price to pay for freedom

[TobiasFunke]

a small price to pay for freedom

Fight them over so we don't have to fight them over here

[Jay]

Early reports are saying that 3 children were among 8 civilians murdered in the airstrikes.

Thanks Obama