If we don't get Garza

[wopphil]

then what the hell do we do?  We have traded our biggest chip for two of the few arms that might actually have been available.  Obviously the team doesn't want to lose a draft pick, so that should take them out of the running for the next two best pitchers (Jiménez and Garza).  So the way I see it, we either get Garza, or we take a big step down and get Arroyo or Maholm. 

 

Any out-of-the box ideas?  There is no room for Choo, so I don't think that is a realistic option.  I wonder if the Brewers would consider a Lohse for Cron+ trade. 

[nando714]

Trade Howie for pitching

[RawDogginit]

AJ Burnett?  If he would come cheap on a 1 year deal. 

[James]

AJ Burnett?  If he would come cheap on a 1 year deal. 

Because he sure seems willing to play in Anaheim, right?

Edited December 19, 2013 by James

[mtangelsfan]

I don't think you can afford to trade Howie if you don't get a solid number three.  The offense is going to have to be stronger now.  I think they are going to have to work on the pen more if they don't get a number three.  They could afford to trade Aybar IMO.

[tdawg87]

Aybar is more easily replaced than Kendrick for sure. I'm not sure if he could get a legit number 3 though. People have suggested trading him to the Mets for Niese but he is the definition of mediocre. I'd rather keep Aybar and sign Maholm or something.

[mtangelsfan]

I don't think he could get us a three on his own either.  Don't know really what the hell to do.  He could net us some good prospects I bet though.

 

We will need a much stronger pen for sure.

[Mark68]

If we can't get Garza, I suppose the fallback plan might be Jimenez, but I'm not as confident that Jimenez will do well as I am in Garza (whom I'm not THAT confident about, either).

 

Barring that, I suppose that Howie or Aybar would have to be moved for pitching.

[tdawg87]

Arroyo is honestly a decent option. I'd rather have Garza for sure but Arroyo has been very durable for his career (9 straight years with 199+ innings pitched) and has had a greater than average ERA+ in 7 of those years. The only issue is age and that he wants 3 years.

[RawDogginit]

Because he sure seems willing to play in Anaheim, right?

Has he said otherwise?

[Cdaniel]

Arroyo is honestly a decent option. I'd rather have Garza for sure but Arroyo has been very durable for his career (9 straight years with 199+ innings pitched) and has had a greater than average ERA+ in 7 of those years. The only issue is age and that he wants 3 years.

Arroyo wouldn't be bad as a plan C. 2ys would be perfect because than we can go after Tanaka.

[jshep]

Has he said otherwise?

 

He turned down a trade here before he went to the Pirates because he lives in Maryland and his wife is afraid of flying.

 

He also hasn't even made up his mind IF he's going to pitch next year yet, but even if he does it sounds like it's pretty much the Pirates or maybe the Orioles(just based on proximity).

[Cdaniel]

Has he said otherwise?

He vetoed a trade to the Angels.

[Ohtaniland]

We are all standing by for Scioscia's "we are comfortable moving forward" speech.

Edited December 22, 2013 by Hamiltown

[Docwaukee]

I just don't trust Arroyo.  Don't like his age, his peripherals, and the fact that he's coming over from the NL. 

 

Choo's demands are way out of range of what this team needs right now.  Granted, the market may say he's worth 20mil per, but this team shouldn't go there. 

 

I still think Aybar is the natural choice for a player to be moved if you can get the right player in return.  Then you could sign Drew and still be under the CBT.  If you can't, then it's probably best to bring in a couple of players on a 1yr deal to compete for the final spot. 

[tdawg87]

-Sign Choo

-Hamilton becomes DH

-Ibanez becomes bat off the bench

-Trade Aybar+ for pitching

-Trade Blanton + 5 million to anyone

**** it.

[Mark68]

I just don't trust Arroyo.  Don't like his age, his peripherals, and the fact that he's coming over from the NL. 

 

Choo's demands are way out of range of what this team needs right now.  Granted, the market may say he's worth 20mil per, but this team shouldn't go there. 

 

I still think Aybar is the natural choice for a player to be moved if you can get the right player in return.  Then you could sign Drew and still be under the CBT.  If you can't, then it's probably best to bring in a couple of players on a 1yr deal to compete for the final spot. 

I think Arroyo gets lit up in the AL at this point. I could see him being Blanton Lite.

[Stradling]

-Sign Choo

-Hamilton becomes DH

-Ibanez becomes bat off the bench

-Trade Aybar+ for pitching

-Trade Blanton + 5 million to anyone

**** it.

Yep

[Tyler]

Hell no on signing Choo. 

[Brent Maguire]

Tanaka or Garza have to be priorities. If they get priced out of those 2, sign a lower level guy like Hammel or Capuano. It helps build even more depth which is fine by me. 

 

If you sign one of Hammel or Capuano, sign another reliever. 

[Stradling]

I agree that if you can't get either of the big name guys you sign an Arroyo type guy and the best available reliever

[gotbeer]

Stand pat.  Heck I'm even thinking stand pat now, instead of grossly overpay for #2/3 type pitchers.  

 

Use the money to extend Trout.

 

2015 free agent class. 

Bailey

Scherzer

Shields

Kershaw

[wopphil]

I agree with the approach of signing a lower-tier starter and great pen arm, but what great relief pitchers are even still available? The big ones - Nathan, Benoit, and Balfour - are off the table.

[tdawg87]

Boone Logan would be an interesting pickup.

[jshep]

Boone Logan would be an interesting pickup.

 

Already signed with the Rockies.