Michael Moore

[mtangelsfan]

Go ahead and buy one.  

[RallyMo]

I should be allowed to have a fully automatic machine gun. Also, I should be allowed to freely carry RPGs and the equipment necessary to launch them.

[arch stanton]

And you should be willing to accept the responsibilities that come with that right. Now we have a starting  point to discuss the issue.

[RallyMo]

And you should be willing to accept the responsibilities that come with that right. Now we have a starting  point to discuss the issue.

 

Alrighty. Your starting point is the responsibility that comes with the right of having arms.

 

Let's take this to an extreme and work our way backwards: should I be allowed to possess a nuclear bomb under such a right?

[Futch Winkleman]

I want a long-range nuke.  It's my constitutional right, so I want one now.

 

Edit: Dammit Rally.

[Futch Winkleman]

Should they still be allowed to possess a firearm?

 

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[arch stanton]

OK we can categorize based on reach and scope. I'll agree to limit my arsenal to that which we can logically agree are feasible to use in defense of a one acre perimeter around my house if you can agree that this is ironclad.

[mtangelsfan]

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Of course for you guys.  The constitution haters want the police to be the only people that have guns.

[arch stanton]

Or better yet, since the militia argument will surely come up, anything that can be carried by an infantry soldier is fair game.

[Glen]

Of course for you guys. The constitution haters want the police to be the only people that have guns.

You guys? Constitution haters? Don't constitution haters also hate cops and therefore also want them unarmed as well?

Man, I'd love America if only our cops were like bobbies and armed only with rape whistles and batons.

[RallyMo]

OK we can categorize based on reach and scope. I'll agree to limit my arsenal to that which we can logically agree are feasible to use in defense of a one acre perimeter around my house if you can agree that this is ironclad.

Why are you putting limits on my rights? The second amendment mentions no specific weapons. I am responsible with my weapons and I can determine what I am capable of reasonably owning and operating. I am willing to accept the responsibilities that come along with whatever weapon I choose to possess. I should be allowed to have whatever I want.

[arch stanton]

You sold me. It's a deal. Next topic?

[RallyMo]

You sold me. It's a deal. Next topic?

Next topic? The nuke that was set off just outside the perimeter you set up around your house.

[mtangelsfan]

You guys? Constitution haters? Don't constitution haters also hate cops and therefore also want them unarmed as well?

Man, I'd love America if only our cops were like bobbies and armed only with rape whistles and batons.

If they can use "gun nuts" I can use "constitution haters".  Labels are fun.

[arch stanton]

Next topic? The nuke that was set off just outside the perimeter you set up around your house.

OK. Maybe we start with the premise that we have the right to something unless you can create a compelling argument against it that is directly related to the good of the public. I'll grant you that banning personal nuclear arsenals is in the public interest. Now it's up to you to create an argument against my AR-15. 

[Futch Winkleman]

 I'll grant you that banning personal nuclear arsenals is in the public interest.

Why?  It's my constitutional right to own one.

 

I want a nuke.

[arch stanton]

Why?  It's my constitutional right to own one.

 

I want a nuke.

And this is why nothing will get done on this issue. You'd rather go out of your way to prove me wrong than to do anything to actually protect yourself or anyone else from violence. The next mass murder is on your head, not mine.

[RallyMo]

And this is why nothing will get done on this issue. You'd rather go out of your way to prove me wrong than to do anything to actually protect yourself or anyone else from violence. The next mass murder is on your head, not mine.

 

lol

[HaloMagic]

To me a Constitution Hater is someone who refuses to admit that the Constitution was written with the idea that it would be altered during it's existence. That's a pretty basic tenet of the Constitution and one that would be very un-American to not have.

[mtangelsfan]

To me a Constitution Hater is someone who refuses to admit that the Constitution was written with the idea that it would be altered during it's existence. That's a pretty basic tenet of the Constitution and one that would be very un-American to not have.

Right, I was just showing how stupid labels are.  

 

Neat thing is, there is a vehicle they created to change it, but they want to take shortcuts.

[HaloMagic]

Yeah, the shortcut options are lame. We agree there.

[Futch Winkleman]

And this is why nothing will get done on this issue. You'd rather go out of your way to prove me wrong than to do anything to actually protect yourself or anyone else from violence. The next mass murder is on your head, not mine.

 

I want to protect myself from government tyranny. 

 

I want my nuke.

[St1ck]

I want to protect myself from government tyranny. 

 

I want my nuke.

 

 

 

I know a guy. PM me.

[Jason]

Just read the family of the 4 year-old is affiliated with law enforcement, so I'm guessing nobody will be held responsible.

 

Nothing to see here folks.

I'm sure his/her department will not be too happy about this irresponsibility.

[RallyMo]

I know a guy. PM me.

 

We know you're talking about yourself. We also want you to know that what you end up doing after eating Indian food doesn't qualify here, though we're sure it's quite deadly.