Maybe the Phillies will overpay for Trout after choking away the NL penant.

[TheLordofOuts]

Trout would take them over the top. And, we can rebuild. 

[jsnpritchett]

8 minutes ago, TheLordofOuts said:

Trout would take them over the top. And, we can rebuild. 

How's he gonna take them over the top if he's never available to play late in the season?

[Vegas Halo Fan]

Besides, nobody is going to overpay to take on that contract.

[mmc]

At this point taking the whole contract without us taking money back would be an overpayment

[Dtwncbad]

It is exhausting to hear people clamor for a “rebuild” when the 2024 roster already will be dominated by very young players with upside in the lineup, in the bullpen, and in the rotation.

If you are frustrated with Trout’s health and contract, and frustrated with Rendon’s health and contract, we get it.

But it’s two players.  And you are not getting a haul of top prospects for a bad contract.  That’s delusion.  Even if the team finds a way to move one of them, that’s not a rebuild.  That’s just trading a player.

The team needs better health, some progress from the young core, and some good decisions on what pieces they add.

Edited October 25, 2023 by Dtwncbad

[T.G.]

If Kimbrel did his job, the Phillies would be going to the WS.  But let's be fair... they didn't choke - the Diamondbacks just beat them. 

[Taylor]

Trout isn't getting traded.

[Stradling]

42 minutes ago, Dtwncbad said:

It is exhausting to hear people clamor for a “rebuild” when the 2024 roster already will be dominated by very young players with upside in the lineup, in the bullpen, and in the rotation.

If you are frustrated with Trout’s health and contract, and frustrated with Rendon’s health and contract, we get it.

But it’s two players.  And you are not getting a haul of top prospects for a bad contract.  That’s delusion.  Even if the team finds a way to move one of them, that’s not a rebuild.  That’s just trading a player.

The team needs better health, some progress from the young core, and some good decisions on what pieces they add.

Yep, exactly this. What value is there to trading expensive players in a rebuild if:

A: you won’t get back legitimate prospects in the trade

2: you have no one knocking on the door to take their place. 
 

It’s a rebuild so you aren’t trading bad money to go spend good money.  

[T.G.]

45 minutes ago, Dtwncbad said:

It is exhausting to hear people clamor for a “rebuild” when the 2024 roster already will be dominated by very young players with upside in the lineup, in the bullpen, and in the rotation.

If you are frustrated with Trout’s health and contract, and frustrated with Rendon’s health and contract, we get it.

But it’s two players.  And you are not getting a haul of top prospects for a bad contract.  That’s delusion.  Even if the team finds a way to move one of them, that’s not a rebuild.  That’s just trading a player.

The team needs better health, some progress from the young core, and some good decisions on what pieces they add.

Ok, let's switch gears and talk about Erstad as the next manager.

[Stradling]

It’s funny because I’d welcome an Erstad hire. 

[T.G.]

1 minute ago, Stradling said:

It’s funny because I’d welcome an Erstad hire. 

I think @Dtwncbad would love to discuss this idea in depth.

[Erstad Grit]

1 hour ago, T.G. said:

If Kimbrel did his job, the Phillies would be going to the WS.  But let's be fair... they didn't choke - the Diamondbacks just beat them. 

I don't follow the Phils too much, but as a MLB fan it feels like they've had very good teams the last decade and continue to have ineffective closers. Kimbrel had a nice year, but that's a lot of trust for a guy who Dodgers didn't even put on their playoff roster. 

[Stradling]

34 minutes ago, T.G. said:

I think @Dtwncbad would love to discuss this idea in depth.

I just think the perfect off season looks like this:

Manager: Erstad

Bench Coach: Molina

Hitting Coach: Salmon

Asst Hitting Coach: GA

Pitching Coach: Weaver

Bullpen Coach: Percival

Infield Coach: Eckstein

Outfield Coach: Ochoa

Accountability Coach: Disar

POBO: Scioscia

[Stradling]

Owner: Snyder

[Blarg]

17 minutes ago, Stradling said:

Accountability Coach: Disar

Paging @Inside Pitch, a customer has a question.

[Dtwncbad]

1 hour ago, Stradling said:

It’s funny because I’d welcome an Erstad hire. 

I would be wide open to it.  I would assume they see what they want to see in him to be the next manager, so why not?

My only point in Erstad is there is no evidence that his name coming up is anything more than people just repeating somebody else who threw out his name as a (now quite predictable) knee jerk reaction to the Angel manager position.

 

[Dtwncbad]

33 minutes ago, Stradling said:

I just think the perfect off season looks like this:

Manager: Erstad

Bench Coach: Molina

Hitting Coach: Salmon

Asst Hitting Coach: GA

Pitching Coach: Weaver

Bullpen Coach: Percival

Infield Coach: Eckstein

Outfield Coach: Ochoa

Accountability Coach: Disar

POBO: Scioscia

New position:

Clutch hitting coach Spezio!

[Angels 1961]

Phillies get 75 mill and Trout plus Ward. Halos get Marsh and some pitcher

[Lazorko Saves]

Maybe Islamabad will overpay for Trout.

[Inside Pitch]

1 hour ago, Blarg said:

Paging @Inside Pitch, a customer has a question.

I LOLed

[Stradling]

9 minutes ago, Inside Pitch said:

I LOLed

You’re welcome

[Vegas Halo Fan]

2 hours ago, Angels 1961 said:

Phillies get 75 mill and Trout plus Ward. Halos get Marsh and some pitcher

So pay them to take Trout and get back a guy who we traded to them? I think not.

[Erstad Grit]

2 hours ago, Angels 1961 said:

Phillies get 75 mill and Trout plus Ward. Halos get Marsh and some pitcher

No way in hell I'd do that if I were Angels. 

[Angels 1961]

1 hour ago, Vegas Halo Fan said:

So pay them to take Trout and get back a guy who we traded to them? I think not.

Angels in rebuild mode save money on Trout contract and get good young player in Marsh. 8 straight losing seasons what good is Trout on a team going with younger players? Neto, O'Hoppe, Marsh, Moniak, Adell and Schanuel. Trade Drury, Carlos E, Ward this off season. Some team might even take Tyler Anderson in trade. For me it's time for new direction. Not buying magic beans Minasian and Arte might try and sell this off season. Angels will not be in running for a playoff spot in 2024.

[Tank]

4 hours ago, Stradling said:

I just think the perfect off season looks like this:

Manager: Erstad

Bench Coach: Molina

Hitting Coach: Salmon

Asst Hitting Coach: GA

Pitching Coach: Weaver

Bullpen Coach: Percival

Infield Coach: Eckstein

Outfield Coach: Ochoa

Accountability Coach: Disar

POBO: Scioscia

what, no Hatcher?

pass.