A's entering purchase agreement for stadium site in Las Vegas to build $1.5 billion stadium opening in 2027

[AngelsLakersFan]

4 hours ago, mmc said:

 

I was wondering about this. The A’s are going to concede all of their rights to NorCal to the Giants for this?

The big winners here are the Giants.

[stormngt]

7 hours ago, Vegas Halo Fan said:

OK.

Still find it odd that they believe that two-thirds of the population here don't have televisions.

How do they measure the fact that Las Vegas is the sports bar capital of the world.  There is one on almost every corner 

[stormngt]

7 hours ago, gotbeer said:

I'd actually disagree with that.  June to August is a pretty busy time in Vegas since it's summer vacation and it's tourist city, plus it's pool season.  Usually I find early to mid December to be their low and cheapest time.  

I was told by casino executive that Christmas is a slow time

[Blarg]

Probably won't be once the high speed rail is completed. 

[Inside Pitch]

15 hours ago, Lhalo said:

I'm going to miss imagining what it's like to be in prison as I walked from BART to the Coliseum to watch the Angels play the A's.

If they changed the "Capitol Corridor" to "Capital Murder" on that sign would ANYONE notice?  Probably not.

[Hubs]

23 hours ago, Vegas Halo Fan said:

We support two hockey teams. It's a good outlet for those who can't afford Golden Knights tickets.

My fear with the A's is that ticket brokers will snap up everything that doesn't go to season ticket holders, and they will charge premium prices.

No Major League City also has a AAA ball club. Hockey is a different animal. 

The AAA cities are always a bit away from the major league club.

Sugarland and Tacoma are the closest to their major league clubs, and that's very large cities. Houston is 4th and Seattle is the 15th largest Metro Area.

Las Vegas is the 29th. They're gonna move them somewhere else. I wouldn't be surprised to see them go to Arizona, but with Fresno already having a AAA ballpark, I can see them moving back to AAA and then reinstating the A-Ball Lancaster JetHawks in the Cal League.

[Amazing Larry]

8 minutes ago, Hubs said:

I wouldn't be surprised to see them go to Arizona, but with Fresno already having a AAA ballpark, I can see them moving back to AAA and then reinstating the A-Ball Lancaster JetHawks in the Cal League.

Fun fact: The Lancaster Jethawks used to be the Riverside Pilots. The Riverside Pilots used to be the Seattle Pilots of the PCL.

[Amazing Larry]

I wonder if Ricky Henderson is pissed he won't have a field named after him anymore.

[mmc]

26 minutes ago, Hubs said:

No Major League City also has a AAA ball club. Hockey is a different animal. 

The AAA cities are always a bit away from the major league club.

Sugarland and Tacoma are the closest to their major league clubs, and that's very large cities. Houston is 4th and Seattle is the 15th largest Metro Area.

Las Vegas is the 29th. They're gonna move them somewhere else. I wouldn't be surprised to see them go to Arizona, but with Fresno already having a AAA ballpark, I can see them moving back to AAA and then reinstating the A-Ball Lancaster JetHawks in the Cal League.

The Aviators are going nowhere, they are owned by the city of Summerlin which is being developed into the premier suburb of the area, they have a vested interest in keeping the team profitable in the area and they will continue to be able to appeal to locals who want a low cost option 

[T.G.]

47 minutes ago, Hubs said:

No Major League City also has a AAA ball club

I consider the A's a AAA club.

[James]

1 hour ago, Lhalo said:

I wonder if Ricky Henderson is pissed he won't have a field named after him anymore.

Dont worry the mayor will rename Jack London Square after him soon. 

[Redondo]

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/36246762/las-vegas-latest-potential-mlb-team-move-oakland

[mmc]

 

[Hubs]

8 hours ago, Lhalo said:

Fun fact: The Lancaster Jethawks used to be the Riverside Pilots. The Riverside Pilots used to be the Seattle Pilots of the PCL.

It’s a nice stadium. Why they contracted it is beyond me as there are much shittier parks in that league and the owners didn’t want out. Plus it would’ve make it Four southern (IE, RC, Lake Elsinore) and four northern (Visalia, San Jose, Modesto and Stockton) 

i hope they expand and give us Portland or Salt Lake to go with Nashville for 32 when Oakland moves. Still leaves Tampa to try to get a new stadium Or move to Montreal. 

[2112]

Does this mean that the other MLB teams can’t claim Las Vegas?  Kinda crappy that Angels games are blacked out.  

[disarcina]

On 4/20/2023 at 6:36 PM, AngelsLakersFan said:

I was wondering about this. The A’s are going to concede all of their rights to NorCal to the Giants for this?

The big winners here are the Giants.

The SF Giants made sure the A's had literally NO NorCal rights.  Had the SF Giants not objected to the A's moving to San Jose - this day might not be happening.  Also - the A's had the original AAA Sacramento River Cats at Riley Field as their AAA affiliate.  The River Cats - as an A's affiliate - often would out draw the Oakland A's when they had games on the same night.   The SF Giants who had a long operating agreement with Fresno for their AAA Fresno Giants team (and the SF Giants were beloved in Fresno and had a huge following from the Valley as Fresno baseball fans had seen all the Giants players come through Fresno Triple A team ) Fresno (city) even pumped a lot of money into the stadium for renovations / upgrade. Pretty nice venue.   The SF Giants, concerned about the A's possibly moving to Sacramento - ended their long standing Fresno agreement and moved their AAA affiliate to Sacramento - I am convinced that was to block a potential A's move.   Fresno baseball fans were very upset -- the new affiliate ( I think it was year to year - Toronto was there at one point) never drew the fans/ support/ attendance the Giants had.

So the SF Giants have pretty much made sure A's NorCal rights, if any, are limited. Not much to give up.

A's will do well in Vegas - can't do worse. In fact, I think they should move ASAP -not wait until 2027 or whenever - and play in the relatively new (and very nice) AAA ballpark in Summerlin, NV ( a suburb of Las Vegas) which has limited seating capacity but IMO the A"s would still draw more per game there than in Oakland.

[disarcina]

This is all good news for the Oakland A's.

This move is about 15 years (at least) over due.

Nice to see the MLB Commissioner FINALLY showing some support for the A's.  This commissioner and past commissioner (Selig) have made the A's a less than small market franchise (and one in distress) by refusing to support  them over the years.  All of this wasted time and weak A's franchise for two decades could have been avoided if Bud Selig would have over-ruled the SF Giants and allowed the A's to move to San Jose - years ago --

Meanwhile - the Oakland Coliseum is 'governed' (using the word loosely) by the Oakland Coliseum Commission which not only is dysfunctional itself but has a governing board with representatives from dysfunctional government entities (City of Oakland, Alameda County, I think the Transit District rep has a seat) -- anyway - it's a board perfectly designed to create bureaucratic in-fighhting and inertia - which it has done for two decades plus.  Let's check their track record -- losing the A's give the Oakland Coliseum Commission a trifecta (hat track) -- they've lost the Raiders, Warriors and now the A's.   And the Mayor of Oakland blames the A's !!  That's pretty laughable.

I feel for the small cadre of longtime loyal A's fans. Anyone who has gone to a game there has encountered them. Not a lot of them - but they are very knowledgeable baseball fans, have great seats (because the park is fairly empty) and in my experience have always been nice to opposing fans there to root for their visiting team.  The Oakland venue may also be the 'best day game walk up ticket venue' in MLB.  You can walk up and still get decent seats.  Not too many places you can do that any more.  If you're a Red Sox or Yankees (insert team) fan - you can see your team in Oakland from a great seat view you're never going to get at Fenway or Yankee Stadium without really over paying for your seats from brokers.  

I wish the A's well. MLB Administration has treated them poorly for at least 20 years now.

PS -- as one who saw games at the Oakland Coliseum way back before 'Davis Mountain' was constructed (the wall of nose bleed seats all around the park) - it was once a beautiful venue for baseball with the Oakland Hills in view behind centerfield -- Davis Mountain built for the Raiders destroyed the ambiance and baseball was never quite the same there again,.

[Vegas Halo Fan]

10 hours ago, mmc said:

The Aviators are going nowhere, they are owned by the city of Summerlin which is being developed into the premier suburb of the area, they have a vested interest in keeping the team profitable in the area and they will continue to be able to appeal to locals who want a low cost option 

A's ownership has already said that the Aviators aren't moving.

[disarcina]

1 hour ago, Vegas Halo Fan said:

A's ownership has already said that the Aviators aren't moving.

this is good news - that new ballpark in Summerlin is a very nice venue.

1 hour ago, Vegas Halo Fan said:

A's ownership has already said that the Aviators aren't moving.

will they remain an A's triple - A team? That would be interesting and make player movements a lot easier logistically.

[Vegas Halo Fan]

22 hours ago, disarcina said:

this is good news - that new ballpark in Summerlin is a very nice venue.

will they remain an A's triple - A team? That would be interesting and make player movements a lot easier logistically.

Being called up or sent down would be an Uber ride away.

[Vegas Halo Fan]

23 hours ago, disarcina said:

this is good news - that new ballpark in Summerlin is a very nice venue.

At least one sports outlet has raised the possibility that an agreement may be reached to end to Coliseum lease early and put them in that park next season. Attendance in Oakland is already below a lot of minor league clubs. I can't imagine how much more it would tank in a lame duck season in 2024.

[disarcina]

20 hours ago, Vegas Halo Fan said:

At least one sports outlet has raised the possibility that an agreement may be reached to end to Coliseum lease early and put them in that park next season. Attendance in Oakland is already below a lot of minor league clubs. I can't imagine how much more it would tank in a lame duck season in 2024.

that just makes so much sense.  and as long as the Aviators are not 'evicted' that would be great. A's need to get out of Oakland like next week if they could.  MLB Commissioner's office , the Oakland Coliseum Commission, the City of Oakland have all placed the Oakland A's in an impossible situation going on at least two decades now.  This needs to happen -- I think the A's will do quite well in Las Vegas.  Las Vegas has proven to be a great sports town -- but then everyone knew that.   Foley - owner of the Vegas Golden Knights deserves credit for 'breaking the ice' (pun indented) for major league sports in Vegas.    VGK has proven that Vegas provide tremendous support for their teams - the year around Vegas residents as well as the thousands from all over that come to Vegas. and decide to catch a game of their hometown team while in town.

Last year (not this year, though) NHL did some great scheduling -- having Calgary Flames play the VGK during National Finals Rodeo -- a lot of Calgary fans in the stands for the. VGK game as NFR is huge with the Calgary Stampede crowd.  No one should ever doubt Vegas as a pro sport venue. ever. again.

[Vegas Halo Fan]

On 4/21/2023 at 7:36 PM, 2112 said:

Does this mean that the other MLB teams can’t claim Las Vegas?  Kinda crappy that Angels games are blacked out.  

Why not have them all claim it, and not televise any games here at all? 

One silver lining about this is that with our own club, other teams can't really claim it anymore. MLBEI might actually be worth the investment then.

 

 

 

[Hubs]

On 4/21/2023 at 8:48 PM, Vegas Halo Fan said:

A's ownership has already said that the Aviators aren't moving.

They have to say this as they have an agreement with the Aviators. 

They will move. Guaranteed.

[Hubs]

16 hours ago, disarcina said:

that just makes so much sense.  and as long as the Aviators are not 'evicted' that would be great. A's need to get out of Oakland like next week if they could.  MLB Commissioner's office , the Oakland Coliseum Commission, the City of Oakland have all placed the Oakland A's in an impossible situation going on at least two decades now.  This needs to happen -- I think the A's will do quite well in Las Vegas.  Las Vegas has proven to be a great sports town -- but then everyone knew that.   Foley - owner of the Vegas Golden Knights deserves credit for 'breaking the ice' (pun indented) for major league sports in Vegas.    VGK has proven that Vegas provide tremendous support for their teams - the year around Vegas residents as well as the thousands from all over that come to Vegas. and decide to catch a game of their hometown team while in town.

Last year (not this year, though) NHL did some great scheduling -- having Calgary Flames play the VGK during National Finals Rodeo -- a lot of Calgary fans in the stands for the. VGK game as NFR is huge with the Calgary Stampede crowd.  No one should ever doubt Vegas as a pro sport venue. ever. again.

I think the opposite. Las Vegas draws well for the Raiders because Southern California subsidizes the crowds. For Hockey, it's mostly locals, but thats a winter sport. 

Vegas will be a terrible move for the A's. They need a new owner and stadium in the Bay Area, but that wasn't in the cards.