Official 2022-23 Offseason Hot Stove Thread

[Warfarin]

 

Guess multiple teams have the same idea with Lugo

[Angels 1961]

6 minutes ago, Warfarin said:

 

Guess multiple teams have the same idea with Lugo

I think Minasian has a sore foot with all tires he is kicking

[rafibomb]

Angels twitter is so brain dead

[Docwaukee]

4 hours ago, Inside Pitch said:

McCourt putting in a bid for the Halos?

you shut your whore mouth!

[CanadianHalo]

1 hour ago, rafibomb said:

Angels twitter is so brain dead

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[CanadianHalo]

So we getting Nico or what?

[mmc]

Where did this idea come from that Hoerner would be moved?

[BTH]

21 minutes ago, mmc said:

Where did this idea come from that Hoerner would be moved?

Probably from people who don’t understand the concept of roster building.

They think “the Cubs signed a SS, therefore they will trade the incumbent SS.”

When in reality, the Cubs aren’t spending $177M to then trade away one of their best position players.

[Warfarin]

Just now, Trendon said:

Probably from people who don’t understand the concept of roster building.

They think “the Cubs signed a SS, therefore they will trade the incumbent SS.”

When in reality, the Cubs aren’t spending $177M to then trade away one of their best position players.

While I agree with this, it is also possible that they could opt to trade him for players who could help ameliorate their other weaknesses.  Hoerner's value is highest as a SS, and they could potentially flip him to a SS needy team to get some players they really need.

That said though, that idea would work better if they had a legit / good 2B already.  I don't think Madrigal fits that description, thus, the most likely outcome is the obvious one - Hoerner shifts to 2B and displaces Madrigal, thus upgrading two spots for them (SS, 2B).

[Angels 1961]

47 minutes ago, mmc said:

Where did this idea come from that Hoerner would be moved?

Even if Cubs were going to trade Hoener do Angels have what Cubs would want. Many teams would be involved on Hoerner.

[BTH]

45 minutes ago, Warfarin said:

While I agree with this, it is also possible that they could opt to trade him for players who could help ameliorate their other weaknesses.  Hoerner's value is highest as a SS, and they could potentially flip him to a SS needy team to get some players they really need.

Perhaps, but I don’t think the Angels could help them there.

On paper, it seems like their biggest need is bats.

They actually have a decent collection of starters. No aces, but a bunch of solid guys.

[Inside Pitch]

2 hours ago, Docwaukee said:

you shut your whore mouth!

[Inside Pitch]

2 hours ago, mmc said:

Where did this idea come from that Hoerner would be moved?

The same Angels' fan delusions that would have them sign a guy who would allow them to make 32 follow up moves to get a second guy the have heard of before but who currently plays for a team with zero need to move him.

[Second Base]

Nico can play a lot of spots and I'm sure the Cubs will use that versatility. And Madrigal is a heck of a ball player. I doubt they move on from him so soon. But if they did, I'd hope Minasian would jump all over that, regardless of who the Angels currently have. 

[ten ocho recon scout]

1 hour ago, Inside Pitch said:

The same Angels' fan delusions that would have them sign a guy who would allow them to make 32 follow up moves to get a second guy the have heard of before but who currently plays for a team with zero need to move him.

 

[ten ocho recon scout]

We need a SS.

That being said, honestly, the Contreras thing would have been nice. Out of left field, kind of a "Huh?". 

But leaving Rengifo there (not perfect) and moving Stassi to depth would have been a pretty decent upgrade... probably smarter than 2-3 hundred million to upgrade SS with the big names.

[Pancake Bear]

Pretty sure Chuck was the one who started the Hoerner rumor based on a little birdie. 

[Docwaukee]

25 minutes ago, Pancake Bear said:

Pretty sure Chuck was the one who started the Hoerner rumor based on a little birdie. 

[Inside Pitch]

1 hour ago, Pancake Bear said:

Pretty sure Chuck was the one who started the Hoerner rumor based on a little birdie. 

I remember he mentioned the Angels checked in on Hoerner and Brendan Rodgers.   I missed any rumor other than -- "checked in on".

[Inside Pitch]

1 hour ago, Docwaukee said:

Every birdie on AW.com since 2013.

[Pancake Bear]

48 minutes ago, Inside Pitch said:

I remember he mentioned the Angels checked in on Hoerner and Brendan Rodgers.   I missed any rumor other than -- "checked in on".

I don't remember whether he said how much conversation there was, but I think that's when Hoerner's name started getting talked up around here.

[Warfarin]

3 hours ago, Inside Pitch said:

I remember he mentioned the Angels checked in on Hoerner and Brendan Rodgers.   I missed any rumor other than -- "checked in on".

"Checked in on" is enough to make imaginations run wild  

[Chuck]

Yeah I was told the Angels checked in on Hoerner and Rodgers a few weeks back. It appears the asking price was high for both so they moved on. 

[Warfarin]

 

3 of those 4 teams, I would imagine, are okay with their new SSs (Dodgers, Braves, Red Sox).  Twins are the team that I imagine would be interested in upgrading SS.  I think the SS market, in terms of trades, shouldn't be terribly competitive, so if we are so inclined to trade for one, I think decent opportunities could be available.

[Angels 1961]

1 hour ago, Warfarin said:

"Checked in on" is enough to make imaginations run wild  

Minasian did not go down and kick the tires