OC Register: Angels’ Mike Trout dealing with rare back condition

[Angels 1961]

With his injury is does Trout become impossible to trade? I'm not saying to trade him but being over 30 and such a huge contract be hard to move.  Seems more likely halos trade Ohtani to open up DH spot, especially if they feel he is going to test FA. 

[Blarg]

Trout is impossible to trade because he has a no trade clause and has not requested a trade. 

[Revad]

We don’t want to trade Trout.  Everyone else but not Mikey.

[T.G.]

38 minutes ago, Blarg said:

Trout is impossible to trade because he has a no trade clause and has not requested a trade. 

Plus he likes the pizza in the OC

[Angels 1961]

8 hours ago, Jeff Fletcher said:

C-Rod is throwing but I don’t get the sense he’s too close to being ready. Certainly not this year, but the question is when he’ll be able to go full go to be ready for next year. 
 

Canning is still in a holding pattern. Obviously he’s not pitching this year, so it’s also an issue of whether Gemma need surgery or anything that would affect him next season. 

Jeff, if Angel's trade Ohtani would they get more before deadline? It would give contenders 2 chances at WS with him. In off season could Angel's get more of players they would want or MLB players?

[BILLYMACREXANDGUBI]

11 hours ago, Stradling said:

Go back to twitter or FB with that nonsense, you’ll feel right at home there.

Uhh... no.

[BILLYMACREXANDGUBI]

20 hours ago, Lou said:

Haha 

You just said:

 

Hey dummy ... when I said "hurting" I mean like everyone else on the team is hurting. Not that he is "injured." 

 

Man you are so slow, Lou.

It must suck to be ... You. LOL.

[Lou]

8 minutes ago, BILLYMACREXANDGUBI said:

Hey dummy ... when I said "hurting" I mean like everyone else on the team is hurting. Not that he is "injured." 

 

Man you are so slow, Lou.

It must suck to be ... You. LOL.

That was a different post and has nothing to do with what I quoted, Einstein.

[Stradling]

49 minutes ago, Lou said:

That was a different post and has nothing to do with what I quoted, Einstein.

He called you a dummy while being dumb, that’s fresh. 

[PattyD22]

1 hour ago, BILLYMACREXANDGUBI said:

Hey dummy ... when I said "hurting" I mean like everyone else on the team is hurting. Not that he is "injured." 

 

Man you are so slow, Lou.

It must suck to be ... You. LOL.

Yeah @Lou

its not like you’ve been posting on this forum for like…….it’s inception.

Get a clue, buddy

[Jeff Fletcher]

17 hours ago, Angels 1961 said:

Jeff, if Angel's trade Ohtani would they get more before deadline? It would give contenders 2 chances at WS with him. In off season could Angel's get more of players they would want or MLB players?

They could get more prospects and overall “value,” by trading him now, but the question is what kind of value do you want.
 

Do you want present value or potential value?

If they want young major leaguers, they probably aren’t getting that now because those guys’ current teams still need them. In the off-season they could maybe get a guy like that because the current team can take some time replacing them. 

[Angels 1961]

1 hour ago, Jeff Fletcher said:

They could get more prospects and overall “value,” by trading him now, but the question is what kind of value do you want.
 

Do you want present value or potential value?

If they want young major leaguers, they probably aren’t getting that now because those guys’ current teams still need them. In the off-season they could maybe get a guy like that because the current team can take some time replacing them. 

Again, if they trade Ohtani anyway to the Dodgers?

[Blarg]

The response is the same. 

[Swordsman78]

21 hours ago, Angels 1961 said:

With his injury is does Trout become impossible to trade? I'm not saying to trade him but being over 30 and such a huge contract be hard to move.  Seems more likely halos trade Ohtani to open up DH spot, especially if they feel he is going to test FA. 

Trout isn't a cripple.   He can still play in the field.   Swinging the bat is probably more of an issue than standing around 98% of the time on the grass.

[Angels 1961]

3 hours ago, Jeff Fletcher said:

They could get more prospects and overall “value,” by trading him now, but the question is what kind of value do you want.
 

Do you want present value or potential value?

If they want young major leaguers, they probably aren’t getting that now because those guys’ current teams still need them. In the off-season they could maybe get a guy like that because the current team can take some time replacing them. 

San Diego GM calls Minasian asks if he would consider trading Ohtani. Minasian says yes does San Diego GM have offer ready or ask Minasian what he is looking for? If Minasian makes it known, he is willing to trade Ohtani is he calling other GM's. How does word get out? 

[Jeff Fletcher]

1 hour ago, Angels 1961 said:

San Diego GM calls Minasian asks if he would consider trading Ohtani. Minasian says yes does San Diego GM have offer ready or ask Minasian what he is looking for? If Minasian makes it known, he is willing to trade Ohtani is he calling other GM's. How does word get out? 

Word gets out from them talking to each other. 
 

And my understanding is the Angels are basically saying “if you want to make an offer, go ahead.” They aren’t going to engage in any back and forth unless the first offer is essentially something they can’t refuse. 

[Angels 1961]

On 7/29/2022 at 6:21 PM, Jeff Fletcher said:

Word gets out from them talking to each other. 
 

And my understanding is the Angels are basically saying “if you want to make an offer, go ahead.” They aren’t going to engage in any back and forth unless the first offer is essentially something they can’t refuse. 

Jeff, if Angel's decided to trade Ohtani would they consider offers from Dodgers? In my opinion it would seem you engage all teams for best possible deal.

[Jeff Fletcher]

1 hour ago, Angels 1961 said:

Jeff, if Angel's decided to trade Ohtani would they consider offers from Dodgers? In my opinion it would seem you engage all teams for best possible deal.

Yes they would. That being said, they might have to win the trade by even more if they sent him to the dodgers. 

[Angels 1961]

5 hours ago, Jeff Fletcher said:

Yes they would. That being said, they might have to win the trade by even more if they sent him to the dodgers. 

In your opinion do Angels try and make another run in 2023 and keep Ohtani?

[gurn67]

On 7/27/2022 at 4:35 PM, Angel Oracle said:

The death of promising SS prospect Mike Miley before the 1977 season

The car accident that paralyzed All-Star pitcher Minnie Rojas after the 1967 season 

Tanana developing arm problems when only 25 in the late 1970s

The bus accident in 1992

 

I was thinking about Frank Tanana today. On his 25th birthday, he already had 80 wins and over 1000 strikeouts! He was definitely on a Hall of Fame trajectory. Then, he completely lost his fastball. Never had arm surgery, just had to relearn how to pitch as a crafty lefty. He somehow managed to win 240 games though, and was in the trade that got the Angels Fred Lynn.

[PattyD22]

49 minutes ago, gurn67 said:

I was thinking about Frank Tanana today. On his 25th birthday, he already had 80 wins and over 1000 strikeouts! He was definitely on a Hall of Fame trajectory. Then, he completely lost his fastball. Never had arm surgery, just had to relearn how to pitch as a crafty lefty. He somehow managed to win 240 games though, and was in the trade that got the Angels Fred Lynn.

That’s a great story about Frank Tanana, but why are you bumping a thread about Mike Trout’s back injury to tell it?

I loved Tanana, by the way.

[Angelsjunky]

1 hour ago, gurn67 said:

I was thinking about Frank Tanana today. On his 25th birthday, he already had 80 wins and over 1000 strikeouts! He was definitely on a Hall of Fame trajectory. Then, he completely lost his fastball. Never had arm surgery, just had to relearn how to pitch as a crafty lefty. He somehow managed to win 240 games though, and was in the trade that got the Angels Fred Lynn.

Yeah, you see the huge drop, from 1975-77 when he averaged 6.3 WAR per year, to 1978 and beyond, when he became more of a 2-4 guy.

According to Wikipedia, he got an inflamed tendon in July of 1977 and was shut down for a couple weeks. He came back with a tired arm, and was shut down for the season in early September. He came back in 1978 and was very good through the the end of July, then struggled later in the season and was never quite the same.