General NHL Talk 2022-2023

[deepdrive]

11 hours ago, gotbeer said:

FERRARI'S 2023 NHL DRAFT RANKINGS: MID-SEASON TOP 50

Interesting that Michkov dropped one spot, and the report on him.

A lot of short guys. Verbeek is not going to like that.

[gotbeer]

20 minutes ago, deepdrive said:

A lot of short guys. Verbeek is not going to like that.

Yeah, I noticed that too.  And mostly centers.  We have Z and McTavish.  And for the third line Lundestrom.  We need scoring wingers like Terry.  

[arch stanton]

Scoring centers can become scoring wingers 

[deepdrive]

12 hours ago, arch stanton said:

Scoring centers can become scoring wingers 

Just not short ones (as per Verbeek). Ask Sam Steel.

[gotbeer]

Draft eligibles in the upcoming world juniors.

2023 World Juniors: Bedard, Fantilli Lead Top 15 Draft-Eligibles At WJC

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Tanking for Connor Bedard: Roundtable on the NHL teams with the best shot

I like the Ducks part.  Pretty much saying Gibswim and Stolarz sucks, and that playing Dostal is preventing them from tanking for Bedard.

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Valeri Nichushkin Re-Injures Ankle, Out Indefinitely

@arch stanton  I guess it's the curse of winning a 2022 championship.  Win, then everyone gets injured.  So far, Colorado and the Rams say yes.  You can only hope it happens with the Astros.  

[arch stanton]

6 minutes ago, gotbeer said:

Valeri Nichushkin Re-Injures Ankle, Out Indefinitely

@arch stanton  I guess it's the curse of winning a 2022 championship.  Win, then everyone gets injured.  So far, Colorado and the Rams say yes.  You can only hope it happens with the Astros.  

It’s been ugly but they’re hanging in there. Imagine winning your division and having the best record in the conference and your reward is a first round matchup with a now fully healthy Avalanche team. That’s what Vegas could be looking at 

 

[Vegas Halo Fan]

10 hours ago, arch stanton said:

It’s been ugly but they’re hanging in there. Imagine winning your division and having the best record in the conference and your reward is a first round matchup with a now fully healthy Avalanche team. That’s what Vegas could be looking at 

Quite possibly.
Was at the Knights game this afternoon, quite a few injured players out. The giveaway poster was Alec Martinez, and he wasn't dressed for the game. Shea Theodore and Jack Eichel are both out.

Edited January 1, 2023 by Vegas Halo Fan

[Vegas Halo Fan]

Weird split for the Knights so far this season.

Road: 14-3-2

Home: 11-9

Just the opposite of the year that they started.

Edited January 1, 2023 by Vegas Halo Fan

[gotbeer]

11 hours ago, Vegas Halo Fan said:

Weird split for the Knights so far this season.

Road: 14-3-2

Home: 11-9

Just the opposite of the year that they started.

Before they played the Ducks, the broadcasters said that in the division, Ducks 4-5-1 or something like that.  Knights 5-4-1.  

So that's good news if the Knights have to face the Lanche.  Bad news if they have to face the Oilers, Kings, or Flames.

NHL playoffs is just a different beast, and it's just amazing to watch.  

[gotbeer]

Well, someone is trying real hard to be #1.  He is having quite a World Juniors, really distancing himself from the #2, Fantilli.  

Sweet 16 does it again

[Vegas Halo Fan]

10 hours ago, gotbeer said:

Before they played the Ducks, the broadcasters said that in the division, Ducks 4-5-1 or something like that.  Knights 5-4-1.  

So that's good news if the Knights have to face the Lanche.  Bad news if they have to face the Oilers, Kings, or Flames.

NHL playoffs is just a different beast, and it's just amazing to watch.  

You can't project the outcome of a playoiff series based on regular season outcomes either. A loss to the Kings now is not a huge deal. A loss to them during the playoffs could be the difference between advancing and going home. Strange things sometimes happen when the stakes are raised.

[deepdrive]

49 minutes ago, Vegas Halo Fan said:

You can't project the outcome of a playoiff series based on regular season outcomes either. A loss to the Kings now is not a huge deal. A loss to them during the playoffs could be the difference between advancing and going home. Strange things sometimes happen when the stakes are raised.

I would think that would be even more the case after seeing the success Tampa Bay has had recently. They've played down in season success, to a level of doing enough to get into the playoffs. The Presidents award is somewhat of a fools prize to the team that didn't pace themselves and prep for the playoffs.

Long regular seasons are a hold over from the past, a way to generate income. Successful teams do best by using them as a preseason to the playoffs.

Professional leagues would benefit by shortening the regular season and using it to  rank teams for a playin system to the playoffs.

[Vegas Halo Fan]

15 minutes ago, deepdrive said:

I would think that would be even more the case after seeing the success Tampa Bay has had recently. They've played down in season success, to a level of doing enough to get into the playoffs. The Presidents award is somewhat of a fools prize to the team that didn't pace themselves and prep for the playoffs.

Long regular seasons are a hold over from the past, a way to generate income. Successful teams do best by using them as a preseason to the playoffs.

Professional leagues would benefit by shortening the regular season and using it to  rank teams for a playin system to the playoffs.

The President's Trophy is just another banner to raise. It is usually not accompanied by the more desirable one: Stanley Cup Champion. Since the 1985-'86 season, the President's Trophy winner has won the Stanley Cup seven times, last by the Chicago Blackhawks in 2012-'13.

[arch stanton]

This is a brutal sport in which a team in the finals is over 100 games played. The key is to make the playoffs and get healthy for the playoffs. If the Avalanche can accomplish that then they'll win it again. Boston looks very impressive now but what toll will this take on their very old lineup? They need Bergeron, Marchand, and Krejci healthy and fresh in May

[gotbeer]

Umm.  Bedard making a statement like McJesus type statement.

Bedard magic in OT wins classic

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World Juniors notes

Learned something new today.  Beaver Tailing.

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This amused me way too much.

 

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Who would have thought, an exotic snake farm is a bad investment?

Golden Knights goalie Robin Lehner files for Chapter 7 bankruptcy

 

[gotbeer]

First Jack Johnson a few years back, with parents spending and borrowing his money like drunken sailors.

Then Lehner and his snake farm this year.

Now the details of Kane comes out, and wow it should be a miniseries.

Evander Kane bankruptcy trials: Oiler discloses he borrowed $48M from ’14 to ’19

 

[Vegas Halo Fan]

On 1/14/2023 at 4:42 PM, gotbeer said:

Who would have thought, an exotic snake farm is a bad investment?

Golden Knights goalie Robin Lehner files for Chapter 7 bankruptcy

 

Can't read it. The article opens up, followed immediately by an obscuring banner hawking subscription.

Knights have dropped seven of their last nine, injuries the issue once again.

Edited January 28, 2023 by Vegas Halo Fan

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New York Islanders Acquire Bo Horvat

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The New York Islanders have acquired center Bo Horvat from the Vancouver Canucks in exchange for forwards Anthony Beauvillier, Aatu Raty, and a lottery-protected 2023 first-round pick. 

https://www.hockey-reference.com/players/b/beauvan01.html

Anthony Beauvillier 25 yo LW, averages high 30's a season.  

https://www.hockey-reference.com/players/r/ratyaa01.html

Aatu Raty 20 yo, 2nd round pick center, big boy 6'2" 190 lb, looks like a depth player from his minor numbers.

https://www.eliteprospects.com/player/467384/aatu-raty

Horvat is a UFA after this season.  But at 27, you have to think they are looking for a long term deal with him.  

[arch stanton]

Raty was considered a possible top of the draft player at one time but ended up falling into the 2nd round. I think there's concerns about his skating. The Islanders will have some cap space to sign Horvat long term with Varlomov coming off the books this off season. 

[gotbeer]

Big blow for Vegas.

Mark Stone Undergoes Back Surgery, Out Indefinitely