OC Register: Angels’ Anthony Rendon still waiting for full return of lower body strength

[Stradling]

11 hours ago, TroutField said:

No doubt he was great over 190 at bats during the COVID influenced season. Since then it has been a train wreck 

I like how you almost dismiss how good he was in 2020 (60 game season) but judge him for the 58 games he played hurt last year when he had a 90 OPS+.  This year he has a 112 OPS+ which will probably continue to rise as he gets more strength back.  

[Inside Pitch]

14 hours ago, Jason said:

If he isn't fully healthy then he should be rehabbing it and not playing. 

The shitty version of Anthony Rendon has a 112 OPS+ this season.

[Inside Pitch]

13 hours ago, Stradling said:

I like how you almost dismiss how good he was in 2020 (60 game season) but judge him for the 58 games he played hurt last year when he had a 90 OPS+.  This year he has a 112 OPS+ which will probably continue to rise as he gets more strength back.  

Angels fans are dense.   

Rendon for his Angels career has managed a 120 OPS+.  It was 125 as a National.   The funniest part, the entirety of his career as an Angel amounts to 123 games and yet, people talk about it being three years..  Because 16 games into his third season counts as a full season.

Seriously... dense.

[Angel Oracle]

13 minutes ago, Inside Pitch said:

Angels fans are dense.   

Rendon for his Angels career has managed a 120 OP+.  It was 125 as a National.   The funniest part, the entirety of his career as an Angel amounts to 123 games and yet, people talk about it being three years..  Because 16 games into his third season counts as a full season.

Seriously... dense.

Part of it is being burned by Pujols’ contract.   If they had never signed Pujols, how would Rendon’s contract be viewed?

Maybe different from the “here we go again” reaction?

Edited April 25, 2022 by Angel Oracle

[Inside Pitch]

5 minutes ago, Angel Oracle said:

Part of it is being burned by Pujols’ contract.   If they had never signed Pujols, how would Rendon’s contract be viewed?

Maybe different from the “here we go again” reaction?

Yep, it's just like every minor leaguer that doesn't come up and become Trout is instantly lumped in with Brandon Wood.

[Stradling]

20 minutes ago, Angel Oracle said:

Part of it is being burned by Pujols’ contract.   If they had never signed Pujols, how would Rendon’s contract be viewed?

Maybe different from the “here we go again” reaction?

The only reason it’s “part of it” is because fans want to be miserable. 

[AngelsFaninGA]

I forget he's even on the roster most days so it's a cool added bonus when I see him contributing something

[Stradling]

Exhibit A

[Jason]

2 hours ago, Inside Pitch said:

The shitty version of Anthony Rendon has a 112 OPS+ this season.

It sure doesn’t seem like he’s playing that well

[Jeff Fletcher]

19 minutes ago, Jason said:

It sure doesn’t seem like he’s playing that well

It’s because this year no one can hit. So you have to lower the bar significantly from what you consider to be “bad.”

[T.G.]

1 minute ago, Jeff Fletcher said:

It’s because this year no one can hit. So you have to lower the bar significantly from what you consider to be “bad.”

[Jeff Fletcher]

1 hour ago, Stradling said:

The only reason it’s “part of it” is because fans want to be miserable. 

This seems true more than ever. Why is that? Sometimes I wonder why people even follow the Angels because they don’t seem to be happy when they win and they are really super angry when they lose. 
 

Edit: I know this is mostly because my judgment of what people feel is what they write here and on Twitter, and people generally don’t comment on things they agree with or that make them happy. 

Edited April 25, 2022 by Jeff Fletcher

[Angel Oracle]

2 hours ago, Inside Pitch said:

Yep, it's just like every minor leaguer that doesn't come up and become Trout is instantly lumped in with Brandon Wood.

True, but it’s much more magnified if it’s a big contract that goes south and  hinders other movement.

[Angel Oracle]

21 minutes ago, Jeff Fletcher said:

This seems true more than ever. Why is that? Sometimes I wonder why people even follow the Angels because they don’t seem to be happy when they win and they are really super angry when they lose. 
 

Edit: I know this is mostly because my judgment of what people feel is what they write here and on Twitter, and people generally don’t comment on things they agree with or that make them happy. 

Here’s my issue, and it’s a legit one.

Only team in MLB to be under .500 the past six seasons.   For a lot of fans, it’s going to take stopping that streak to finally feel some relief.

We don’t like being lumped with the Pirates, Orioles, Tigers, etc.

And it’s magnified here with the larger payroll not benefiting the team.

So, when will things finally change?   That’s what a lot of folks are waiting for.

Seems that MANY poor decisions, both with acquisitions, drafted players, and int’l signings have occurred, more so than more orgs?

Edited April 25, 2022 by Angel Oracle

[Inside Pitch]

42 minutes ago, Jason said:

It sure doesn’t seem like he’s playing that well

Look around baseball....  

[ten ocho recon scout]

Im no expert. But take away your legs (not amputated, just injury) and everything else crumbles. For movements like swinging a bat, throwing a punch, etc etc, all the power is generated from the hip.

GA had the same problem... hoping this isnt that extreme.

[TroutField]

4 hours ago, Stradling said:

I like how you almost dismiss how good he was in 2020 (60 game season) but judge him for the 58 games he played hurt last year when he had a 90 OPS+.  This year he has a 112 OPS+ which will probably continue to rise as he gets more strength back.  

I hope you’re right.
I think a couple stupid losses to the o’s coupled with a few bad defensive plays, I was speaking out of frustration. he isn’t as bad as he’s made out to be, and I hope he is actually still waiting to get back to 100%. 

[ten ocho recon scout]

4 hours ago, Angel Oracle said:

Part of it is being burned by Pujols’ contract.   If they had never signed Pujols, how would Rendon’s contract be viewed?

Maybe different from the “here we go again” reaction?

Not just Pujols, but just about every contract we've bought the past decade. 

[Angel Oracle]

2 minutes ago, ten ocho recon scout said:

Not just Pujols, but just about every contract we've bought the past decade. 

GMJHGH, Wells, Pujols, Hackilton, Upton…not to mention the many 1 year deals that flopped

Arte Moreno and his “GMs” have just about struck out on MLB FA acquisitions.

Yep, can ANYONE be blamed for being very leery of the $190 million remaining for Rendon?

Edited April 25, 2022 by Angel Oracle

[Jeff Fletcher]

31 minutes ago, Angel Oracle said:

GMJHGH, Wells, Pujols, Hackilton, Upton…not to mention the many 1 year deals that flopped

Arte Moreno and his “GMs” have just about struck out on MLB FA acquisitions.

Yep, can ANYONE be blamed for being very leery of the $190 million remaining for Rendon?

That's because free agents deals are mostly bad. For all teams. Essentially, the way you sign a free agent is by being the team to offer the worst contract.

The vast majority of players the Angels didn't sign (who many fans also wanted them to sign) have also gone bad. Keuchel, Corbin, Strasburg, that catcher whose name I'm forgetting.

[Angel Oracle]

Just now, Jeff Fletcher said:

That's because free agents deals are mostly bad. For all teams. Essentially, the way you sign a free agent is by being the team to offer the worst contract.

The vast majority of players the Angels didn't sign (who many fans also wanted them to sign) have also gone bad. Keuchel, Corbin, Strasburg, that catcher whose name I'm forgetting.

McCann?

[Angel Oracle]

Agree that it’s much better to focus on re-signing your own in house FAs.

You know so much more about their habits, conditioning, health issues, etc.

Rendon needs to be the last outside of org big money FA to sign for quite a while.

Focus on re-signing Ohtani and if continuing to look good and healthy Thor.

Edited April 25, 2022 by Angel Oracle

[Jeff Fletcher]

3 minutes ago, Angel Oracle said:

McCann?

No. I looked it up. Wilson Ramos is the guy I was thinking about.

[Stradling]

2 hours ago, Angel Oracle said:

Here’s my issue, and it’s a legit one.

Only team in MLB to be under .500 the past six seasons.   For a lot of fans, it’s going to take stopping that streak to finally feel some relief.

We don’t like being lumped with the Pirates, Orioles, Tigers, etc.

And it’s magnified here with the larger payroll not benefiting the team.

So, when will things finally change?   That’s what a lot of folks are waiting for.

Seems that MANY poor decisions, both with acquisitions, drafted players, and int’l signings have occurred, more so than more orgs?

What happened last year or any previous year has no bearing on this year except to fans.  Each season is independent of themselves.  If you don’t want to be lumped in with those teams then don’t do it yourself.  The issue with being the guy that focuses on the past poor performance is you can’t enjoy the present, because you as a fan were wronged last year.  As far as when it will change, that change has happened, it just takes more than 16 games to prove that.

[Stradling]

2 minutes ago, Angel Oracle said:

Agree that it’s much better to focus on re-signing your own in house FAs.

You know so much more about their habits, conditioning, health issues, etc.

Rendon needs to be the last outside of org big money FA to sign for quite a while.

Focus on re-signing Ohtani and if continuing to look good and healthy Thor.

He won’t be and you are setting yourself up for another wonderful rant.