Where do the Angels go with Starting Pitching from here?

[BTH]

Where do the Angels go with Starting Pitching from here?

Do they sign a high-end SP to a multi-year, big money contract?

Do they sign an upper middle-tier SP to a 3-4 year, $30-$50 million total deal?

Do they sign a lower middle-tier SP to a 1-2 year, $8-24 million total deal?

Do they sign no more SP's and pivot to other positions of need?

[BTH]

I think they sign an upper middle-tier SP to like a 3 year, 30-40 million deal. Someone like Matz or Wood.

[Lou]

now that all of the children are growing up?

[Angelsjunky]

While I'd love if they went after Gausman or Stroman, I think more likely is someone like DeScaflani, Cobb, Wood or Matz.

And frankly, I can't fault them for it (if they go that route). It probably makes more sense to spend $10-13M a year on one of those four than twice that on the expensive guys, especially when they have other needs. 

Edited November 18, 2021 by Angelsjunky

[T.G.]

27 minutes ago, Lou said:

now that all of the children are growing up?

I knew it... you put that song in my head once before and now you've done it again!

[HanfordGuy]

Stay aggressive. Go for the top of the rotation pitchers.

[Dtwncbad]

41 minutes ago, HanfordGuy said:

Stay aggressive. Go for the top of the rotation pitchers.

100%.  Big boy baseball.  Let’s go.

[WicketMaiden]

We've done the risk play, now pivot to the trade market for the next SP, someone with 2 or 3 years left at a reasonable AAV. Probably a 2nd tier guy that won't cost the earth, someone like Sonny Gray. I think we get better value there than a middle tier FA. If Syndergaard is back to his best I want the flexibility to be able to extend him. Another TOR free agent would probably preclude that, a middle tier SP on a multi year deal could do too. If he's not back to his best I want the $$$ available at the trade deadline to fix it.

Then spend $20m on the pen. Two reliable 8th/9th innings guys, plus at least one other solid veteran.

[BTH]

Interesting that the early results see the Angels going out and signing a high-end SP to a multi-year, big money contract.

Any indication which way they are leaning going forward? @Jeff Fletcher

[Warfarin]

Unless we get surprised and they sign Scherzer, who will "only" command 3 years, I think they'll avoid Gausman/Ray/Stroman and instead sign someone in the tier below.

They have ~30-40mil of payroll (likely) to spend.  Unless they fill the closer role cheaply, they'll have to spend at least a decent amount of money on a closer, whether that's Iglesias, Jansen, or some other alternative.

[wopphil]

Sign Jon Gray for 4/60, re-sign Raisel for 3/48, and trade for number 3 type starter. 

[Jeff Fletcher]

3 hours ago, Trendon said:

Interesting that the early results see the Angels going out and signing a high-end SP to a multi-year, big money contract.

Any indication which way they are leaning going forward? @Jeff Fletcher

Nope. Just that they need more. I am sure they are shopping in all aisles 

[Cosmo_Kramer]

They need another impact starter, and I'm not sure the middle tier offers that. Perhaps the trade market

[Robrock30]

I am familiar with Marcus Stroman and like him watched him up close this past year.  He is short in stature and doesn't go that deep into Games so will need a Bridge of RP, not an Ace but a Solid #2 or #3 SP.  He is durable not a serious IL risk, he seems to pace himself, not a hard thrower more of a contact Pitcher which is best with good IF defense behind him.  He himself is very agile defensively which is a plus.  I think he will provide solid value in the #2 or #3.

I really like the Marlins young cost controlled SP.  Alcantara is an Ace already, Trevor Rogers excellent, Sixto Sanchez very impressive but he missed 2021 with injury but he wowed me in 2020, Luzardo has great stuff but is a bit raw.  I seriously look there to trade.

Aaron Loup LHP for bullpen really amazing 2021.  Nice piece to have in pen.

[Angels 1961]

BBB Build Back Bullpen act today Minasian.

[HanfordGuy]

10 hours ago, Jeff Fletcher said:

Nope. Just that they need more. I am sure they are shopping in all aisles 

Go Perry!!!

[HanfordGuy]

2 hours ago, Angels 1961 said:

BBB Build Back Bullpen act today Minasian.

 

[UndertheHalo]

To the moon Alice.  To the moon! 
 

 

[HanfordGuy]

1 hour ago, UndertheHalo said:

To the moon Alice.  To the moon! 
 

 

 

[Tank]

time for a big gun stud, a game-changer who doesn't tip-toe around out there. someone that is feared, someone that can dominate a game each time they're given the ball.

go get scherzer.

[HanfordGuy]

11 minutes ago, Tank said:

time for a big gun stud, a game-changer who doesn't tip-toe around out there. someone that is feared, someone that can dominate a game each time they're given the ball.

go get scherzer.