Official 2021-22 Hot Stove League Thread.

[totdprods]

5 minutes ago, Second Base said:

It makes sense. 14 million per year. If he's on the field a full season, he's worth 25 million a year. But he's shown continually throughout his career that 90-100 games is likely what you'll get. 

It pays him fairly for what he provides. 

Some years, he'll have it all together and get in 140 games and will be with nearly double their investment. Other years, he may only play 30 and won't be worth even half the investment. 

There's crazy incentives involved. One of the more inventive incentive-laden deals I've seen.

Remember all that talk a week or two back about WAR being proposed as a way to establish player salaries or value? 
This actually seems like something of a prototype for what that could look like. BIG dollars added for MVP/CY finishes, big dollars added for staying on field. 
Would make roster/playing time manipulation more of a thing.

More details:

$1M signing bonus.
2022 salary-$9M
2023-28-$15M per season

MVP bonuses, believed to be unprecedented, for every year of deal.

1st-$8M
2nd-$7M
3rd-$6M
4th-$5M
5th-$4M
6th-through-10th: $3M

Also: $500K each for 502, 533, 567, 600 and 625 plate appearances. https://t.co/leTEjfa4wR

— Ken Rosenthal (@Ken_Rosenthal) November 28, 2021

Edited November 28, 2021 by totdprods

[Dtwncbad]

4 minutes ago, Angels_Make_Me_Drink said:

Very good deal for both, IMO. 

Buxton became what everyone hoped Peter Bourjos would become.

[tdawg87]

Just now, Dtwncbad said:

Buxton became what everyone hoped Peter Bourjos would become.

Black Bourjos

[Warfarin]

 

 

 

[rafibomb]

Just now, Warfarin said:

 

 

Lol not the Mariners

[CanadianHalo]

Just now, rafibomb said:

Lol not the Mariners

I think they end of up with Bryant

[totdprods]

Might be a really wild 24-48 hours.

[Warfarin]

Just now, totdprods said:

Might be a really wild 24-48 hours.

If only every offseason were this exciting.  Each offseason should have a transaction cutoff date to facilitate movement, lol.

[southpaw]

Just now, Warfarin said:

If only every offseason were this exciting.  Each offseason should have a transaction cutoff date to facilitate movement, lol.

Completely agree here.....  Makes the offseason much more exciting!!

[totdprods]

1 minute ago, Warfarin said:

If only every offseason were this exciting.  Each offseason should have a transaction cutoff date to facilitate movement, lol.

Honestly, I think it's been floated recently about there being some sort of winter trade deadline, so next CBA could help do that. 

It's in MLB's favor to create some arbitrary deadlines to force drama, because ultimately it turns these events into advertising dollars for programming. Especially with this new weird fixation on working gambling and betting odds into viewership. Play the odds on where so-and-so signes/gets traded. The reasoning behind it is kinda gross but I do like the winter having more structure to encourage activity.

[CanadianHalo]

A big part of Semien’s value came from the long ball. The Rangers new park doesn’t exactly do him any favours 

[rafibomb]

3 minutes ago, CanadianHalo said:

I think they end of up with Bryant

Completely okay with that. I think Semien is a lot better and maybe more big names in the AL West opens up Arte's wallet even more.

[Angels_Make_Me_Drink]

Good for Semien. This is gonna be a fun 24 hours. 

[totdprods]

Just now, rafibomb said:

Completely okay with that. I think Semien is a lot better and maybe more big names in the AL West opens up Arte's wallet even more.

I know there was some chat about Eppler being in NYC motivating Arte to make moves...

I think if any opposing GM is gonna make Arte more competitive, it'll be Dipoto trying to add.

[ten ocho recon scout]

8 minutes ago, Warfarin said:

 

 

 

Oh snap

[CanadianHalo]

Just now, rafibomb said:

Completely okay with that. I think Semien is a lot better and maybe more big names in the AL West opens up Arte's wallet even more.

Plus the loss of Semien is a decent blow to what makes Toronto good.

Just thinking in terms of wild card spots for us

[Angels 1961]

Way too long a deal for Semien.

[jsnpritchett]

9 minutes ago, Warfarin said:

 

 

 

I am 100% fine with the Angels not being in on this one if it was going to take a 7-year deal to get it done.  Sorry, but that's crazy for him.

[Second Base]

I don't blame Semien for choosing Texas over Seattle at all. Freedom is pretty cool. 

[Angels 1961]

1 minute ago, CanadianHalo said:

Plus the loss of Semien is a decent blow to what makes Toronto good.

Just thinking in terms of wild card spots for us

Your thinking playoffs! Playoffs Playoffs halos just trying to get to 500

[mmc]

 

[eligrba]

[Second Base]

Texas must think Marcus Semien is a legit MVP candidate or something. 

[rafibomb]

Semien is gonna be like 40 at the end of that deal lol

[eligrba]

It's Texas, nothing makes sense.