Cleveland Indians new name is "Guardians"

[Dtwncbad]

30 minutes ago, St1ck said:

I'm denying it so therefore you are incorrect. 

[stormngt]

2 hours ago, St1ck said:

It isn't political though. It was an baseball organization decision. The Guardians did what they thought was best for them. 

Why did they make the decision to change the name?

Because of political pressure from activist groups

[St1ck]

5 minutes ago, stormngt said:

Why did they make the decision to change the name?

Because of political pressure from activist groups

Business decision 

[thebloob]

12 minutes ago, stormngt said:

Why did they make the decision to change the name?

Because of political pressure from activist groups

 

6 minutes ago, St1ck said:

Business decision 

Yes and yes.  It all starts with politically correct complaining from activist groups.  However, this causes sponsers to stop supporting the team so they aren’t associated with anything perceived to be offensive.  That is the business decision. So they are both correct. 

[Blarg]

1 hour ago, failos said:

But they did what they thought was best of them for political financial reasons. That’s undeniable.

[Taylor]

Why do white people get so triggered by changing the names of things?

[Lou]

5 minutes ago, Taylor said:

Why do white people get so triggered by changing the names of things?

They want to be The Man. 

[stormngt]

1 hour ago, St1ck said:

Business decision 

Because of political pressure.  They weren't losing money.  In fact they may lose money because of their decision.

[stormngt]

1 hour ago, Taylor said:

Why do white people get so triggered by changing the names of things?

Why are you racist by calling unseen people "white people"?

[Taylor]

7 minutes ago, stormngt said:

Why are you racist by calling unseen people "white people"?

I'm not just referring to the people in this thread.

[Taylor]

9 minutes ago, stormngt said:

Because of political pressure.  They weren't losing money.  In fact they may lose money because of their decision.

Why does it upset you so much?

[stormngt]

1 minute ago, Taylor said:

I'm not just referring to the people in this thread.

And you know they are white?  And why incorporate all white people in your assessment?

My ancestors were from Asia

[Taylor]

Just now, stormngt said:

And you know they are white?  And why incorporate all white people in your assessment?

My ancestors were from Asia

It's not all white people, of course. Or just white people. But it's mostly white people.

[St1ck]

12 minutes ago, stormngt said:

Because of political pressure.  They weren't losing money.  In fact they may lose money because of their decision.

I guess we'll have to wait and see if this pays off for them. 

[Taylor]

1 minute ago, St1ck said:

I guess we'll have to wait and see if this pays off for them. 

My bold prediction: they won't lose any money, and will actually gain a ton of money on fans buying the new merchandise. A small, vocal minority will "boycott" while the remaining 95% will shrug and continue attending games and supporting the team.

[stormngt]

2 minutes ago, Taylor said:

Why does it upset you so much?

I never once complained about the name change.  Doesn't bother me at all.  Cancel culture and political correctness bothers me.  

I don't  understand how naming a sports team after a group of people is insulting. The sports team us supposed to be a sense of pride and symbolizes determination and pursuit of excellence.  It shouldn't be insulting at all.

Chief Wahoo on the other hand should be viewed as insulting.

 

[stormngt]

1 minute ago, Taylor said:

My bold prediction: they won't lose any money, and will actually gain a ton of money on fans buying the new merchandise. A small, vocal minority will "boycott" while the remaining 95% will shrug and continue attending games and supporting the team.

95% may shrug.  They may laugh at the name.  At the end they won't care.

[Taylor]

Just now, stormngt said:

95% may shrug.  They may laugh at the name.  At the end they won't care.

So how will the team lose money again?

[stormngt]

4 minutes ago, Taylor said:

It's not all white people, of course. Or just white people. But it's mostly white people.

Have you taken a poll to see if the majority of people white people complaining or are you just guessing most?

[Taylor]

1 minute ago, stormngt said:

I never once complained about the name change.  Doesn't bother me at all.  Cancel culture and political correctness bothers me.  

I don't  understand how naming a sports team after a group of people is insulting. The sports team us supposed to be a sense of pride and symbolizes determination and pursuit of excellence.  It shouldn't be insulting at all.

Chief Wahoo on the other hand should be viewed as insulting.

 

Are you a member of a people group whose had a team named after then?

[Lou]

2 minutes ago, Taylor said:

Are you a member of a people group whose had a team named after then?

tdawg's a bear.

 

allegedly

[failos]

12 minutes ago, Taylor said:

Why does it upset you so much?

Hmm he doesn’t seem too upset to me.

[stormngt]

Just now, Taylor said:

Are you a member of a people group whose had a team named after then?

Actually no.  But if the Fresno minor league team changed their name to the Fresno rug merchants I really wouldnt give a shit about it.

My wife is Irish,  and her father is a proud alumnus of Notre Dame.  I do not see people insulted by being called Buccaneers or Pirates.  I don't see white people pissed off with the name "cowboys".  Maybe because a large population of cowboys were not white.

[failos]

4 minutes ago, Taylor said:

Are you a member of a people group whose had a team named after then?

I would be honored if a team were named after my ethnic origins

[Lou]

Just now, failos said:

I would be honored if a team were named after my ethnic origins

The Topeka Cameroonians?

I'd buy the hat.