Perry Minasian: "We are prepared to go into Spring Training with what we currently have"

[failos]

31 minutes ago, AngelsFaninGA said:

Are we going for the record of most diverse range of reactions to a single post here? If so I'm in

Needs more cowbell 

[yamsi12]

Disappointing off-season to say the least.

[tdawg87]

3 minutes ago, yamsi12 said:

Disappointing off-season to say the least.

I agree. We just have to "trust the process", unfortunately. 

Still hoping we add Rosenthal. If we have a lock down bullpen, we have a good team.

[Jeff Fletcher]

19 hours ago, Trendon said:

 

Perry Minasian spoke to the media on Zoom today, and it seems like he's done with the roster. In addition to him saying that they're "prepared to go into Spring Training with what we currently have" the fact that he had this Zoom call today sure seems like an end of offseason type Zoom call. Now, I obviously wasn't on the Zoom call so maybe that wasn't the reason for it, but it sure seems like it.

 

The reason for the call was because those of us in the media who need to write spring training previews asked to talk to Perry. 

[Stradling]

8 minutes ago, Jeff Fletcher said:

The reason for the call was because those of us in the media who need to write spring training previews asked to talk to Perry. 

Do you believe they are done adding?

[Blarg]

18 hours ago, Chuckster70 said:

While he's most likely done, remember Bill Stoneman said he was done and close to the end of spring training he made the Edmonds for AK and Bottenfield trade.

Had Stoneman wanted to trade Edmonds it would have been late November early December for the best package. He was forced to make that trade. He argued against trading Edmonds for months with Tony Tavares that had zero baseball experience. I think the Angels would have been a stronger team for longer with Edmonds in center for the rest of his career. 

[ThisismineScios]

12 minutes ago, Jeff Fletcher said:

The reason for the call was because those of us in the media who need to write spring training previews asked to talk to Perry. 

In other words it wasn't Perry's idea to call a meeting. 

[Blarg]

Why would that matter who initiates the discussion? 

[Inside Pitch]

1 hour ago, Chuckster70 said:

Don't you dare disrespect my boy Johnny Ray!  

Pittsburgh Johnny Ray was super fun.  Anaheim Johnny Ray was ugly.  He had a good first full season but omg his defense.....  Dude would take a couple steps then just kinda pull up like Deion Sanders avoiding a tackle.

[totdprods]

It might of been an underwhelming offseason so far, but calling it a bad offseason, even a disappointing offseason, might be a little harsh given a broader context.

Very few times improved substantially this winter. The Padres, Blue Jays, White Sox, Mets, and Dodgers are really the only clear-cut 'winners' of this winter. 

Oakland? Lost La Stella, Hendriks, Grossman, Soria, Davis, and potentially Petit.
Texas? Traded away their only decent SP. 
Seattle? Added a couple relievers, that's about it.
Houston lost George Springer!

Most teams didn't spend. Most teams didn't improve. Most teams claimed financial losses and looked the other way. 
What we did certainly isn't exciting on paper, or in terms of our expectations, but at least we did something. 

There's a pandemic killing thousands a day, costing people jobs, etc., and we're looking at actually getting perhaps a full baseball season in. 

I'm not taking this for granted anymore...it was a huge bummer losing out on 100 games last year, not because it was 100 more games of Rendon or 20 more Bundy starts, but because it was entertainment. It was fun tracking the minor league teams, it was fun watching players grow, it was fun watching Mike Trout home runs. We were denied a lot of that, and it didn't matter who we acquired or didn't. 

I'm really looking forward to watching baseball this year, win or lose. 

[Inside Pitch]

27 minutes ago, Blarg said:

Had Stoneman wanted to trade Edmonds it would have been late November early December for the best package. He was forced to make that trade. He argued against trading Edmonds for months with Tony Tavares that had zero baseball experience. I think the Angels would have been a stronger team for longer with Edmonds in center for the rest of his career. 

He didn't.  That was not a baseball decision.  That was a Disney "family values" decision.

[T.G.]

25 minutes ago, ThisismineScios said:

In other words it wasn't Perry's idea to call a meeting. 

 

11 minutes ago, Blarg said:

Why would that matter who initiates the discussion? 

[Jeff Fletcher]

1 hour ago, Stradling said:

Do you believe they are done adding?

I don’t think they’d add anyone significant at this point. But who knows. 

[beatlesrule]

1 hour ago, Blarg said:

Had Stoneman wanted to trade Edmonds it would have been late November early December for the best package. He was forced to make that trade. He argued against trading Edmonds for months with Tony Tavares that had zero baseball experience. I think the Angels would have been a stronger team for longer with Edmonds in center for the rest of his career. 

It's comical how much better Edmonds was/is than Anderson. Stoneman got hosed in that trade too. Sure, AK was on the 2002 World Series team but Edmonds had a whole 2bwar higher than AK that year and Bottenfield was on the team one year and was terrible. One of the worst Angel trades in their history.

[Stradling]

6 minutes ago, beatlesrule said:

It's comical how much better Edmonds was/is than Anderson. Stoneman got hosed in that trade too. Sure, AK was on the 2002 World Series team but Edmonds had a whole 2bwar higher than AK that year and Bottenfield was on the team one year and was terrible. One of the worst Angel trades in their history.

No

[gotbeer]

I'm going to pivot here on Perry.  

Maybe his goal for 2021 was to just be semi competitive, and his real target is 2022?  I know I know.  Another season of Trout lost.  But you still have a pandemic going around and who knows what that's going to bring.  You bring in Maddon's crew and see if he can make any magic with them.  

But you look at how he structured the team.  We have 4 people signed for 2022.  Trout, Rendon, Upton (last year), Ohtani.  The rest are FA's or arbitration players.  That's a really good foundation to start with.

If we compete, great.  If not, we have a lot of one year deals on relatively small contracts that contenders might want to trade for.  Usually, you see more fill in the holes type trades at the deadline than blockbusters.  And we have a lot of fill in the hole type players.

And you look at 2022.  Outfield, Trout, Upton, Adell with one more year under his belt.  Year after, Trout, Adell, Marsh.  Set there.

Infield.  Rendon and Fletcher.  You have a kick ass class of SS in 22, and the Angels will have lots of money.  1B you have Walsh, Ward, or you could sign someone.  

Catcher is up in the air, but it give Stassi and really Bemboom a year to see if they can make it a full season.  

So that leaves pitching, which is a mess.  But sometimes a clean slate is better than one that has some costly middling players.   And this is where hopefully Perry can work some magic.

[tdawg87]

[failos]

3 minutes ago, tdawg87 said:

Moar

[tdawg87]

[failos]

[Blarg]

4 hours ago, beatlesrule said:

It's comical how much better Edmonds was/is than Anderson. Stoneman got hosed in that trade too. Sure, AK was on the 2002 World Series team but Edmonds had a whole 2bwar higher than AK that year and Bottenfield was on the team one year and was terrible. One of the worst Angel trades in their history.

Like I said, Stoneman had no choice. It was either trade him or lose him because Tavares was set to DFA one of the premiere center fielders in baseball over something that never reached the press. And I think St. Louis knew they could low ball and still get Edmonds. Tavares was an asshole. 

[Dtwncbad]

Never bothered me one bit that Edmonds was shipped out.  The dude was a full blown douchebag.  100% purebred douchebag.

 

[Second Base]

[Blarg]

42 minutes ago, Dtwncbad said:

Never bothered me one bit that Edmonds was shipped out.  The dude was a full blown douchebag.  100% purebred douchebag.

 

Career line .284/.376/.527/.903  393 HR  132 OPS+

He was 100% better than Erstad and Anderson. 

[T.G.]

26 minutes ago, Blarg said:

Career line .284/.376/.527/.903  393 HR  132 OPS+

He was 100% better than Erstad and Anderson. 

But neither Erstad nor GA were douchebags.