The Official 2020 MLB Trade Deadline Hot Stove Thread

[Dtwncbad]

My opinion on trading Bundy is I am fine keeping him if the Angels view him as a #3 and they have plans to get some better pitcher to put in front of him.   The nightmare is the Angels think they found a top of the rotation arm, go forward with that mindset, and then he pitches like a #3 next year.

[mmc]

 

[fan_since79]

3 hours to go. Anyone here think we're actually going to make any more trades?

[Angel]

The last time the Angels got a pitcher like Bundy via trade his name was Colon and we were one of the best teams in baseball, we need to build around our new big boy.

[GrittyVeterans]

Just now, fan_since79 said:

3 hours to go. Anyone here think we're actually going to make any more trades?

No I think we stand pat. 
 

the new Gm will have a lot of work to do starting in November

[totdprods]

1 minute ago, Dtwncbad said:

My opinion on trading Bundy is I am fine keeping him if the Angels view him as a #3 and they have plans to get some better pitcher to put in front of him.   The nightmare is the Angels think they found a top of the rotation arm, go forward with that mindset, and then he pitches like a #3 next year.

I’d be perfectly happy with Bundy pitching like a #3 next year. We’ve had a hard time getting production like that out of any arm for years now. 

I swear, if we could just get three SPs to make 30 GS/180 IP of 4.00 ERA ball we’d easily be in the WC hunt and would have enough to threaten for the division. 

[Lou]

5 minutes ago, Dtwncbad said:

Than or then?

That is a big difference.

[Dtwncbad]

3 minutes ago, GrittyVeterans said:

No I think we stand pat. 
 

the new Gm will have a lot of work to do starting in November

There really isn’t an excuse to not make any more deals, is there?

[Chuck]

Does anyone know what time the trade deadline is today?

[Stradling]

4 minutes ago, Angel said:

The last time the Angels got a pitcher like Bundy via trade his name was Colon and we were one of the best teams in baseball, we need to build around our new big boy.

We didn’t trade for Colon. 

[angelsnationtalk]

Just now, totdprods said:

I’d be perfectly happy with Bundy pitching like a #3 next year. We’ve had a hard time getting production like that out of any arm for years now. 

I swear, if we could just get three SPs to make 30 GS/180 IP of 4.00 ERA ball we’d easily be in the WC hunt and would have enough to threaten for the division. 

Yes, but with the AL so strong I don't think we want to bet on making the WC every year. 

If we keep Bundy as a #3 then who do we view as a #1, #2? Not Ohtani...

If Bundy has any regression then we are still a ways out in terms of pitching. 

[angelsnationtalk]

Just now, Chuckster70 said:

Does anyone know what time the trade deadline is today?

1pm PT

[GrittyVeterans]

1 minute ago, Dtwncbad said:

There really isn’t an excuse to not make any more deals, is there?

Of course not. They should be getting what they can for anyone that’s an FA next year. They did it with La Stella and Castro so far and need to do it with at least Simmons still.

The issue is that the Gm is on his way out and might not have the leash to get creative

[Dtwncbad]

If the Angels make a flurry of trades it probably means Epplers job is safe?

If the Angels do nothing else, is it an indication ownership wants to hand all the current pieces over to a new GM to let them make the deals they want to make?

[Chuck]

 

[Inside Pitch]

7 minutes ago, Angel said:

The last time the Angels got a pitcher like Bundy via trade his name was Colon and we were one of the best teams in baseball, we need to build around our new big boy.

He was a FA... 

[HaloMilliVanilli]

I could see other teams not wanting to part with good young pitchers, especially for a guy with Bundy's track record until this season.  Angels may be interested in the right trade, but I don't mind keeping Bundy if the right deal isn't there.

[GrittyVeterans]

The biggest indication that Eppler won’t be here is that his contract wasn’t extended during the coronavirus.

like him or not, I’m simply stating that you usually don’t see a Gm get to the end of their contract and then return to the same club I don’t think. Maybe there are a few examples of this that I’m unaware of though?

[totdprods]

8 minutes ago, angelsnationtalk said:

Yes, but with the AL so strong I don't think we want to bet on making the WC every year. 

If we keep Bundy as a #3 then who do we view as a #1, #2? Not Ohtani...

If Bundy has any regression then we are still a ways out in terms of pitching. 

No one? It’s pretty hard for every team to have a #1 when there’s only a handful of true #1-types in the league each year. Even harder when basically zero are available via trade or FA, and as of now, I don’t really see one this winter, with Bauer being the lone exception. And defining him as a #1 could still be a reach. 

Until we have the ability to really, actually realistically acquire a deGrom, Giolito, Flaherty, Paddack, Buehler, Bieber-type, either by trade or FA or developed internally, the Angels best bet for making and winning in playoffs is to build a solid, deep, dependable rotation of four or six guys performing at a #2-4 level, coupled with a very strong offense and a couple of elite bullpen arms. 

And I think Heaney, Bundy, Canning, and someone like Stroman or Bauer could do that for us next year. Ohtani is a huge question mark but makes it more feasible.

We can’t *currently* really take the same blueprint for success that the Dodgers, Padres, Nationals, Yankees, or Indians can. We’re closer to a Giants or Cardinals or Braves approach. Build a balanced, deep team without any huge holes, and hope they get hot.

Edited August 31, 2020 by totdprods

[Vlad27Trout27]

I just don't see Bundy being this good for an extended period of time. His Fastball velocity was down last year. K's are down the last 3 starts and runs are up. 

He's going to regress. 

[Dtwncbad]

4 minutes ago, totdprods said:

No one? It’s pretty hard for every team to have a #1 when there’s only a handful of true #1-types in the league each year. Even harder when basically zero are available via trade or FA, and as of now, I don’t really see one this winter, with Bauer being the lone exception. And defining him as a #1 could still be a reach. 

Until we have the ability to really, actually realistically acquire a deGrom, Giolito, Flaherty, Paddack, Buehler, Bieber-type, either by trade or FA or developed internally, the Angels best bet for making and winning in playoffs is to build a solid, deep, dependable rotation of four or six guys performing at a #2-4 level, coupled with a very strong offense and a couple of elite bullpen arms. 

And I think Heaney, Bundy, Canning, and someone like Stroman or Bauer could do that for us next year. Ohtani is a huge question mark but makes it more feasible.

We can’t really take the same blueprint for success that the Dodgers, Padres, Nationals, Yankees, or Indians can. We’re closer to a Giants or Cardinals or Braves approach. 

The confusion between an ace and a decent #1 continues.

[angelsnationtalk]

3 minutes ago, totdprods said:

No one? It’s pretty hard for every team to have a #1 when there’s only a handful of true #1-types in the league each year. Even harder when basically zero are available via trade or FA, and as of now, I don’t really see one this winter, with Bauer being the lone exception. And defining him as a #1 could still be a reach. 

Until we have the ability to really, actually realistically acquire a deGrom, Giolito, Flaherty, Paddack, Buehler, Bieber-type, either by trade or FA or developed internally, the Angels best bet for making and winning in playoffs is to build a solid, deep, dependable rotation of four or six guys performing at a #2-4 level, coupled with a very strong offense and a couple of elite bullpen arms. 

Majority of playoff teams have/had the Ace which is what the Angels lack. Kershaw, Cole, Verlander,  Strasburg, Scherzer, 

I think we have a solid rotation of #4 guys. We're still missing #1 and #2. Or at least (2) #2 guys. 

[CanadianHalo]

40 minutes ago, Dtwncbad said:

I have this gut feeling Heaney is getting traded.

Won’t fetch much of a return. Heaney, Goodwin and Simba all carry next to no value. 

Bundy is the one with the value. But of course this organization will once again make the mistake of believing they can compete this upcoming year and hold on to the only valuable trade piece they have

[Angel Oracle]

22 minutes ago, Chuckster70 said:

 

AJ Preller got back respect, after being foolish enough to give Machado $300 million.   Of course, he had help from one of the best judges of talent in the game (White). 

[mmc]