OC Register: Angels reliever Keynan Middleton takes a knee during Anthem

[Orange Lives Matter]

1 minute ago, Stradling said:

There is nothing lazier than saying we can’t worry about social injustice because black people kill each other.  It’s beyond dumb and basically an excuse to look the other way. 

So where's the justice on your part?  Are you cool with blacks hurting more blacks than whites hurting blacks?  Just so you know me wanting blacks to be better doesn't make me the bad guy but keep the theatrics going that'll for sure fix all the problems

[Stradling]

5 minutes ago, Blanks Burner Account said:

So nobody is allowed to have differing opinions now a days?  Are my thoughts that lethal?

 

Lethal, cute.  Don’t give yourself too much credit.  

[Stradling]

3 minutes ago, Blanks Burner Account said:

So where's the justice on your part?  Are you cool with blacks hurting more blacks than whites hurting blacks?  Just so you know me wanting blacks to be better doesn't make me the bad guy but keep the theatrics going that'll for sure fix all the problems

They are separate issues that also becomes the first or second thing out of people’s mouths about this.  

[Orange Lives Matter]

Just now, Stradling said:

Lethal, cute.  Don’t give yourself too much credit.  

And the term Cute is real cute as well but don't want to give you too much credit with your full of substance replies 

[Chuck]

I really like our newest member @Blanks Burner Account. 

Best burner account ever! Maybe a close second to the English Cop. 

[Orange Lives Matter]

6 minutes ago, Stradling said:

They are separate issues that also becomes the first or second thing out of people’s mouths about this.  

Okay how do you fix this problem.  Besides CUTE little slogans and talking points with no actual substance you've been program to say DON'T FIX THINGS so how do you fix systemic racism

 

And without googling it what is systemic racism?

[Orange Lives Matter]

2 minutes ago, Chuckster70 said:

I really like our newest member @Blanks Burner Account. 

Best burner account ever! Maybe a close second to the English Cop. 

I'm being respectful.  I'm not trolling.  

[Chuck]

8 minutes ago, Blanks Burner Account said:

I'm being respectful.  I'm not trolling.  

Moreover, you've brought fresh thoughts and good discussion to this topic as well. 

Welcome (again...)

 

[Hubs]

I'd probably kneel in solidarity. Hand over my heart and the other in the air.

This Doesn't mean I don't like the troops or police, or government, it just means I'm sympathetic to the plight of black men and women in this country, and all of those P.O.C. who deal with racism from police, corporations, government and their fellow citizens. I am sure I'm guilty of it myself in the past. I didn't mean to do it, and I can't think of a specific instance, but I'm sure there were some.

That we live in a free country that allows people to protest, is the greatest thing about this democratic experiment. I don't always agree with the reason or the method of the protest, but I will always support your right to do it.

[Angels in 2030]

This thread is basically the first i heard about any comments about kneeling last night, political responses, name calling, etc.  You see, care and react how you want to based on your own preconceived notions.   Then again, i'm not on twitter -- so maybe that's why.  Personally, it doesn't bother me either way.  It's America -- land of the free (for the good or bad).  That's what makes the Nation great....always has.  I just don't understand why people continue to waste their precious time & energy getting all riled up either way.   Chill out and enjoy the short time we have.  

[Orange Lives Matter]

Just now, Chuckster70 said:

Moreover, you've brought fresh thoughts and good discussion to this topic as well. 

Welcome (again...)

 

Thank you Chuck.  I love what you've done here.  Been around for years and even though I've never posted MUCH until today and I feel like I know many of you for years.  I'm not here to troll, I have another account that doesn't get used much and I'm letting everyone know that this is a burner account because I have to protect myself from the virtue signal mob that are out there.

[oldguy]

24 minutes ago, Blanks Burner Account said:

Okay how do you fix this problem.  Besides CUTE little slogans and talking points with no actual substance you've been program to say DON'T FIX THINGS so how do you fix systemic racism

 

And without googling it what is systemic racism?

Systemic racism - teachers' unions

Solution - School vouchers for black people

[Slegnaac]

Guess I tuned into the game late and tuned out of the game before Middleton came into pitch.  I watched an exhibition game and didn't see or hear anything political.

55 minutes ago, Blanks Burner Account said:

There's nothing of substance to these kneeling theatrics.  Kneeling is not ending black on black crimes or black on black killings.  Kneeling won't cure the broken family and fatherless family structure of the black community.  Kneeling won't fix poverty.  Kneeling won't fix the lack of TRUE education with regards to reading, writing and math skills.  Kneeling won't end racism or unit us all. 

 

Yes there are problems and yes something needs to be done but accountability is a two way street and our black brothers and sisters need to do their part as well and keep their community in check with accountability and peaceful actions because the way they're going about it now with their RICH white liberal friends is doing more damage than good for their cause no matter what the media says

Kneeling may not be doing anything of "substance" to institute change, but how has Standing been working as an instrument of change?

[Claude]

1 hour ago, Chuckster70 said:

Just when baseball had a chance to unite people struggling through a pandemic & civil unrest this shit happened.

I won't go into it much, most of you know my politics & where I stand, but I disagree with anyone who kneels during the anthem and I wholeheartedly am opposed to BLM the organization.

All Lives Matter. Period! Including the Black Police & Black Men & Children who were gunned down by Black thugs in the streets. Until BLM stands against crimes against their own and against creating more racial divide and hate toward law enforcement, they're nothing but angry political activists more defined as a Marxist hate group who have explicit stated goals of dismantling America as we know it and replacing it with a socialist doctrine. BLM wasn't even for Black senator Tim Scott's police reform bill. These cities are run by Democratic mayors & state Governors! The same politicians who are silent about the high crime rates in their streets and do nothing, yet they want to defund law enforcement.

I digress..

I'm with you @tchula.

Keep this stuff out of sports. There's enough protests in the streets and on local and national news networks. We don't need this in the game! 

I’m actually ok with him taking a knee to express his feelings about social injustice. I’m not ok with him raising his fisted arm. That can send an entirely different message. 

[Orange Lives Matter]

36 minutes ago, oldguy said:

Systemic racism - teachers' unions

Solution - School vouchers for black people

The same teachers and institutions that have been shown to be prejudice and bias towards Asians and Whites with regards to college acceptance based on test scores?

Or is it the same teachers and institutions who have thought many of these privilege white kids that are out there destroying black communities under the disguise of a social justice  movement?

[Angels in 2030]

33 minutes ago, Chuckster70 said:

Moreover, you've brought fresh thoughts and good discussion to this topic as well. 

Welcome (again...)

 

This kind of sounds like "Hey someone agrees with my opinion, so it's fresh thoughts and good discussion".  LOL.  I'm probably wrong.....but that's just how it sounded to me.  So i thought it was funny.  Likely you didn't mean it that way though.  BTW, i'm neither Republican or Democrat (more a Libertarian than anything else -- so i disagree with 99% of the political party systems/people here in the U.S.). 

[Orange Lives Matter]

Just now, RendZone said:

I’m actually ok with him taking a knee to express his feelings about social injustice. I’m not ok with him raising his fisted arm. That can send an entirely different message. 

With that thought lets use Albert Pujols as an example with the Pujols Family Foundation for kids with Down Syndrome.  There's no theatrics there with the Pujols Foundation just legit hard work and fund raising for an actual cause.. 

The day I see MANY kneelers do something real and of substance that makes the black community better that's the day I will believe in their stance.  YES there have been a few exception but I really haven't seen anything tangible by most of the kneelers.  

[Orange Lives Matter]

8 minutes ago, Fourts said:

This kind of sounds like "Hey someone agrees with my opinion, so it's fresh thoughts and good discussion".  LOL.  I'm probably wrong.....but that's just how it sounded to me.  So i thought it was funny.  Likely you didn't mean it that way though.  BTW, i'm neither Republican or Democrat (more a Libertarian than anything else -- so i disagree with 99% of the political party systems/people here in the U.S.). 

Or it could mean someone is willing to call out some stuff that needs to be called out.  

And even at that precautions need to be made by creating a burner account for fear of the virtue signaling mob attacking someone who hurts their DELICATE DELICATE feelings with words

[oldguy]

10 minutes ago, Blanks Burner Account said:

The same teachers and institutions that have been shown to be prejudice and bias towards Asians and Whites with regards to college acceptance based on test scores?

 

Or is it the same teachers and institutions who have thought many of these privilege white kids that are out there destroying black communities under the disguise of a social movement?

Its the same teachers' unions that won't allow competition in poor communities.

On a personal note - I would start supporting BLM if they changed one of their platforms from "Release all prisoners" to "Release Albert Pujols."

[Orange Lives Matter]

4 minutes ago, oldguy said:

Its the same teachers' unions that won't allow competition in poor communities.

On a personal note - I would start supporting BLM if they changed one of their platforms from "Release all prisoners" to "Release Albert Pujols."

I would support BLM if Marcellus Wiley was in charge of the movement.  But keep virtue signaling privileged white people

 

[Stradling]

Are we allowed to acknowledge social injustices while not supporting the leadership of BLM?  

[Mark PT]

2 hours ago, RendZone said:

We obviously need more black umpires. 

Not necessarily, we need less Joe West and Angel Hernandez. As long as an umpire is not one of these two, I could care less what color they are.

[yk9001]

1 hour ago, Stradling said:

I was wondering where you would stand on this one.  You hate a lot of things like stand up to cancer or Jackie Robinson Day or Mother’s Day or Father’s Day or 4th of July Hats.  I wasn’t sure you would be ok with this.  Oh and I 100% agree with you on this one.

Just my opinion but I think the cancer stand and the Jackie Robinson thing is a lot of overkill.  A LOT of overkill.

This is just my opinion, and I realize it isn't close to the majority opinion, but the Cancer Stand and signs in the middle of the World Series is a lot of "look at me!! Something bad happened to me or my relative!"

If anyone deserves recognition, it is Jackie Robinson.  But for Pete's sake, if I see another Robinson progeny at another first pitch, or ribbon cutting, etc, it will be my one millionth.  It is cliche at this point, in my opinion.

Sorry I mistook you for a maga earlier, Stradling.

[Chuck]

 

9 minutes ago, Blanks Burner Account said:

I would support BLM if Marcellus Wiley was in charge of the movement.  But keep virtue signaling privileged white people

 

@Blanks Burner Account Marcellus Wiley was so spot on there.

Thank you for posting this. It can't be watched and heard enough. 

[Orange Lives Matter]

2 minutes ago, Stradling said:

Are we allowed to acknowledge social injustices while not supporting the leadership of BLM?  

Watch the Marcellus Wiley video.