Trumped

[UndertheHalo]

28 minutes ago, fan_since79 said:

On a random point, it's not a conservative idea to run up trillion dollar deficits, and Trump is doing exactly that. Well, he and the Congress. 

 

Oooh the deficit again.  What do you think the relationship between the deficit and our misadventures in the Middle East is ?? Please tell us about who was behind that. 

[UndertheHalo]

4 minutes ago, Lou said:

I agree 100%

this is why libs are so hypocritical. 

You’re right Lou.  The conservatives never complain about corruption. 

[Blarg]

You Dems are so fucked.

U.S. Economy Added 136,000 Jobs in September

The U.S. added jobs at a steady pace last month and the unemployment rate hit a 50-year low, signs that the economy is holding up despite a broader global slowdown.

Many workers who didn’t reap economic gains earlier in the decadelong expansion are now experiencing record-low levels of unemployment, including the underemployed, those without a high school diploma and Hispanic men.

Average hourly earnings climbed 2.9% from September 2018, a pullback from previous months but still higher than inflation.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-september-nonfarm-payrolls-grew-steadily-11570192288?mod=mhp

So what platform do the libs propose that Trumps employment and increased wages? 

[Lou]

6 minutes ago, UndertheHalo said:

You’re right Lou.  The conservatives never complain about corruption. 

both sides!

[Blarg]

And in other news, more winning for Trump.

Trump’s Online Fundraising Surges

Raises $45 million online for re-election bid in third quarter, 29% increase over prior quarter.

President Trump’s 2020 re-election effort raised $45 million online in the third quarter on a surge of small-dollar donations driven by 313,000 first-time donors, campaign officials said.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-re-election-bid-raised-45-million-online-in-third-quarter-11570204369?mod=mhp

[Taylor]

6 minutes ago, Blarg said:

You Dems are so fucked.

U.S. Economy Added 136,000 Jobs in September

The U.S. added jobs at a steady pace last month and the unemployment rate hit a 50-year low, signs that the economy is holding up despite a broader global slowdown.

Many workers who didn’t reap economic gains earlier in the decadelong expansion are now experiencing record-low levels of unemployment, including the underemployed, those without a high school diploma and Hispanic men.

Average hourly earnings climbed 2.9% from September 2018, a pullback from previous months but still higher than inflation.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-september-nonfarm-payrolls-grew-steadily-11570192288?mod=mhp

So what platform do the libs propose that Trumps employment and increased wages? 

Still not as good as Obama!

https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckjones/2019/07/05/trump-is-falling-almost-1-million-jobs-short-vs-obama/#7f064a958caa

[Taylor]

Hmm ... almost as if it's been trending upward since the end of the recession. Trump berating Obama from Twitter must be the reason that employment numbers have steadily risen since early 2010.

[Taylor]

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The underlying economy is weaker than perceived when you look at March quarter’s GDP numbers and railroad traffic taking a significant downward move over the past month. If the economy continues on this path it could enter a recession when few are forecasting one with one reliable indicator foreshadowing a downturn in the next 6 to 18 months. It could become a self-fulfilling prophecy as almost 70% of CFO’s are predicting a recession by the end of 2020.

MAGA!

[Blarg]

Obama increased unemployment to nearly double digits. The worst since the 80's.

[UndertheHalo]

Lol good luck @Taylor.  Why bother. 

[Taylor]

5 minutes ago, Blarg said:

Obama increased unemployment to nearly double digits. The worst since the 80's.

That darn Obama, orchestrating the recession that happened a year before he became president.

[Taylor]

https://www.factcheck.org/2017/09/obamas-final-numbers/

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The numbers are nearly all in now. What they show about what really happened during the eight years that Barack Obama was president is sometimes different from what politicians claimed.

• The economy gained a net 11.6 million jobs. The unemployment rate dropped to below the historical norm.
• Average weekly earnings for all workers were up 4.0 percent after inflation. The gain was 3.7 percent for just production and nonsupervisory employees.
• After-tax corporate profits also set records, as did stock prices. The S&P 500 index rose 166 percent.
• The number of people lacking health insurance dropped by 15 million. Premiums rose, but more slowly than before.
• The federal debt owed to the public rose 128 percent. Deficits were rising as Obama departed.
• Home prices rose 20 percent. But the home ownership rate hit the lowest point in half a century.
• Illegal immigration declined: The Border Patrol caught 35 percent fewer people trying to get into the U.S. from Mexico.
• Wind and solar power increased 369 percent. Coal production declined 38 percent. Carbon emissions from burning fossil fuel dropped 11 percent.
• Production of handguns rose 192 percent, to a record level.
• The murder rate dropped to the lowest on record in 2014, then rose and finished at the same rate as when Obama took office.

 

[Blarg]

Let's see, Taylor tries to make a point Obama increased employment by a greater number but ignores he nose dived the economy to near record unemployment in the last 50 years. After Obama left office unemployment was higher than when he entered. That's a failure, not a win. 

Trump took where he was at and improved it. Improved wages, greater than inflation. All of this is going on his platform of MAGA accomplishments that the Dems can't argue. They can only play the impeachment game that every quarter the economy rises, unemployment falls, they look like dumbasses without any platform that isn't tax the living shit out of the populace. 

Trump, right now, is almost invincible if the economy continues to rise and he stays out of a war. That's not R or D talk, it's just the truth. You can't fight prosperity with Socialism. 

[Taylor]

Just now, Blarg said:

Let's see, Taylor tries to make a point Obama increased employment by a greater number but ignores he nose dived the economy to near record unemployment in the last 50 years

Again, the unemployment rate skyrocketed because of the recession. It then rapidly and steadily declined in the final 6 years of Obama's presidency.

https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000000

[Taylor]

I will give Trump credit for continuing the unemployment rate decrease trend that Obama started in 2010. Trump has been riding the wave that Obama started.

[Blarg]

3 minutes ago, Taylor said:

That darn Obama, orchestrating the recession that happened a year before he became president.

It's his record. Same as the times now are Trump's. Nobody going to the booth are voting for what was accomplishments in the previous administration. They will look at their wallet and say, yeah, the Democrats left my ass in the cold while claiming I was a deplorable. Fuck them, I will vote wallet this time.

[tdawg87]

This thread sucks.

[Blarg]

Have you read page 1? It's awesome.

[UndertheHalo]

It’s not. 

[tdawg87]

Lol yes I've witnessed Nate doin his thang

[Catwhoshatinthehat]

Gotta love arguing about unemployment as a win for either side when both sides have contributed to adding over 16T to the national debt in the last two decades with no sign of slowing down.  That's debt your great great great great great grand kids will be paying off...winning!  

[fan_since79]

That debt will come back to bite us in the ass someday.

Forget about social security and medicare for your grandchildren and succeeding generations, unless radical changes to the programs are made . The interest on the ever-growing national debt will eventually take up a good deal of the federal budget and crowd out everything else. We could easily see yearly interest of  2 trillion on a debt of 50 trillion, and that's at only 4% interest. Wait until interest rates skyrocket like the late 1970's. The prime rate in December, 1980 was 21.5%.

Oh, and say hello to eventual hyperinflation. Your ballpark beer might cost you a few hundred dollars.

[Blarg]

It doesn't already?

[Lou]

30 minutes ago, fan_since79 said:

Oh, and say hello to eventual hyperinflation. Your ballpark beer might cost you a few hundred dollars.

You've obviously never met Arte 

[Lou]

44 minutes ago, Catwhoshatinthehat said:

Gotta love arguing about unemployment as a win for either side when both sides have contributed to adding over 16T to the national debt in the last two decades with no sign of slowing down.  That's debt your great great great great great grand kids will be paying off...winning!  

Another thing I don't care about. Therefore, if anyone's winning, it's me