Jordyn Adams vs Brandon Marsh

[halomatt]

Marsh. 'Cause most everyone replied, "Adams."

 

Where is the pole for this?

[UndertheHalo]

I mean I think both are fun prospects but Brandon Marsh is more valuable right now and therefore he’s the guy I’d keep.  Adams has a nice tool set but is still very much an undeveloped player.  Marsh is pretty close to being a big leaguer. 
 

also, just based on the publications it seems that if Marsh is as good as we in Angels land think, they aren’t going to get what they should for him.  

Edited November 23, 2019 by UndertheHalo

[Angelsjunky]

7 hours ago, Lou said:

Adams 

Racist.

[Troll Daddy]

Where exactly is Marsh going to play ... LF, RF, 1B?

[tdawg87]

13 minutes ago, Troll Daddy said:

Where exactly is Marsh going to play ... LF, RF, 1B?

LF.

[Troll Daddy]

Just now, tdawg87 said:

LF.

So we’re trading Upton 

[tdawg87]

Just now, Troll Daddy said:

So we’re trading Upton 

Or moving him to 1B. 

[Troll Daddy]

9 minutes ago, tdawg87 said:

Or moving him to 1B. 

Makes sense ... although, Upton will probably suck at 1B. 

[Dtwncbad]

Is Adams a baseball player yet?

[Lou]

2 minutes ago, Dtwncbad said:

Is Adams a baseball player yet?

all I've heard is that he's an athlete

[Troll Daddy]

16 minutes ago, Dtwncbad said:

Is Adams a baseball player yet?

Angels did pay him over $3M to play baseball 

[Troll Daddy]

 

[Troll Daddy]

15 minutes ago, RBM said:

We should remember the premise here was either/or. Not neither or both.

It’s obvious to keep Marsh over Adams at this stage of their development. The author of the thread thought Adams would be in the Majors in 2021. He will be in A ball this year so he doesn’t project to the majors until 2022 or 2023. So the entire premise is flawed.

I hope we don’t trade either of them this offseason but Marsh has more value now. 

I meant to say 2023 or sooner, chill  I don’t see Marsh as untouchable. Justin Upton is blocking him for now. I wasn’t advocating trading either one  ... just looking for some opinions.

[tdawg87]

8 minutes ago, RBM said:

We should remember the premise here was either/or. Not neither or both.

It’s obvious to keep Marsh over Adams at this stage of their development. The author of the thread thought Adams would be in the Majors in 2021. He will be in A ball this year so he doesn’t project to the majors until 2022 or 2023. So the entire premise is flawed.

I hope we don’t trade either of them this offseason but Marsh has more value now. 

I actually think it's an interesting topic that brings up a point that having Adams may make Marsh expendable.

I know no one wants to trade him. I don't want to trade him. But he has a ton of value right now, whereas Adams doesn't. Now both could significantly increase their value over the course of the 2020 season, but I think it's safe to say a package centered around Marsh RIGHT NOW, could get us just about any pitcher we want. Adams could be a dud. Or he could be better than Adell. We don't know yet. But we have Upton as "insurance" as he's under control for three more seasons. By then, Adams could be the number 1 prospect in baseball, or he could have flamed out in AA, or Deveaux took huge steps forward and became our top OF prospect. There's a lot of time.

I'm playing devil's advocate here, mostly. I do not want to trade Marsh. But if it comes to it, I could see it happening. Unfortunately if we somehow miss out on Cole and Wheeler, it could be our only option.

[Troll Daddy]

 

[Halodays]

Neither one has done chit in the majors. If you wait another season, the outcome may not be to the Angels liking. Trade whom ever will bring back the most in return which is Marsh

[Troll Daddy]

1 minute ago, RBM said:

And this was great. Just watched it with my 13 year old. He seems like a baller to me. 

I shared it with my 13 yr old too lol Does he play travel ball?

[Second Base]

Adams football highlights put Marsh's and Hermosillo's to shame, that's for sure.

[Angelsjunky]

There's just no need to trade Marsh, not unless a team presents Eppler with an offer he can't refuse - like a Forrest Whitley. By the time Adams is ready, the Angels will have a better sense of who they've got in Marsh (and Adell), and can make their decisions based on that. In other words, they have 2-3 full years to figure out what to do with Adams.

Now if Eppler flubs free agency completely, even more so do you not want to panic and trade young talent away. Meaning, lets say he missed out on Cole, Wheeler, etc, and has to settle for something like Gibson/Hamels. Then you double down on building from within, and re-focus on 2022 and beyond. That includes keeping your higher end talent.

So again, regardless of which path forward the Angels take, unless they're presenting with a high ceiling, young pitcher who is at least close to major league ready, I don't think Marsh will be traded. If he wants to go after Ray or Boyd he can probably assemble a package that doesn't include any of the "triumvirate" (Adell, Marsh, Adams).

[Angelsjunky]

^An addendum. If they miss out on Cole, Wheeler, etc, I don't think the right way to go is Gibson/Hamels, but go cheap and look to 2021 and beyond. The benefit of Cole and Wheeler (and Odorizzi, Strasburg) is that they should be good for the next 4-5 years, so they'll be part of the rising homegrown talent. Hamels may only have a year or two left, and Gibson is pretty much the definition of a "veteran #4." Both could be useful as rotation fillers over the next couple years, but that's about it.

[Troll Daddy]

15 hours ago, RBM said:

Yep. He’s playing 14U, 8th grade. I see we’re both in LA. Very cool. 

My son plays 13U now. We just got back from Cooperstown AllStar Village in July ... had a blast. You’re son must of jumped a level if he’s in 8th grade like my son. 

[Tank]

17 hours ago, Troll Daddy said:

Angels did pay him over $3M to play baseball 

Is he missing part of his finger or just throwing a gang sign?

[ten ocho recon scout]

22 hours ago, Tank said:

Is he missing part of his finger or just throwing a gang sign?

I think its the shocker. But updated as to where the the 2 go.

[Lou]

the Reverse Shocker. or as tdawg calls it ... the Shocker. 

 

[eligrba]

On 11/22/2019 at 5:33 PM, halomatt said:

Marsh. 'Cause most everyone replied, "Adams."

 

Where is the pole for this?

Fiify