Fangraphs best and worst bargains

[Dtwncbad]

Fangraphs says Carlos Santana will be the best bargain for the money and that Eric Hosmer will be the worst bargain.

I personally was very tempted on Hosmer, but after reading the analysis I have changed my mind.

 

 

[ten ocho recon scout]

Waiting for someone to mention it ..

[SoWhat]

We need to bring back the thumb down button.

[Dtwncbad]

Do people need a link to fangraphs.com?

 

[ten ocho recon scout]

Not what i was getting at, Dtwn....im just standing by for this thread to have someone not in the article mentioned ..

[Dtwncbad]

Oh I thought I was getting ridiculed for no link.

[ten ocho recon scout]

2 minutes ago, artesmustache said:

but what about PUUUUUUUJOLS!!!???  you can rest easy now ten ocho

Lol, there it is! The aw.com swiss watch!

[ten ocho recon scout]

Hes gonna bat .179 all year, and in his last AB of his career, hes going to squeeze bunt in the winning run in the playoffs and finally get giancarlo stanton a ring.

[Second Base]

It's hard to know any of that until contracts are signed. For all we know, Hosmer just doesn't generate enough interest and only gets a 4 year contract and teams love Santana's track record and he gets 5 years.

[SlappyUtilityMIF]

1 hour ago, Dtwncbad said:

Do people need a link to fangraphs.com?

 

normally, if you are speaking of something it would be nice to also see the link to your information.

 

Hell, I'm lazy!

[Angel Oracle]

2 hours ago, SoWhat said:

We need to bring back the thumb down button.

Check the button again, your wish is granted.

[ettin]

I actually think Lorenzo Cain is going to be the best bargain in free agency this year. Of course this will only be true for a team that signs him to be their center fielder.

[ten ocho recon scout]

3 hours ago, ettin said:

I actually think Lorenzo Cain is going to be the best bargain in free agency this year. Of course this will only be true for a team that signs him to be their center fielder.

Id say get him and move trout to 1B, but he doesnt have the arm for first.

[Angel Oracle]

Bob, Bob, Bob....

The Halos are about more than just Mike Scioscia.

I am one of the last persons to rag on someone who is venting.    But dude, there are other things to discuss about the Halos than Scioscia 24/7.

[WeatherWonk]

19 hours ago, Dtwncbad said:

Fangraphs says Carlos Santana will be the best bargain for the money and that Eric Hosmer will be the worst bargain.

I personally was very tempted on Hosmer, but after reading the analysis I have changed my mind.

 

 

I didnt see anything hosing Hosmer in that article. It was all about Santana. Where is their analysis of Hosmer? I'm lazy, too. 

I do think that Santana's body type and age make him more likely to miss time than Hosmer. That hasnt happened yet, I realize.

But I prefer Santana as well. He's just been more consistent than Hosmer.

[Dtwncbad]

52 minutes ago, WeatherWonk said:

I didnt see anything hosing Hosmer in that article. It was all about Santana. Where is their analysis of Hosmer? I'm lazy, too. 

I do think that Santana's body type and age make him more likely to miss time than Hosmer. That hasnt happened yet, I realize.

But I prefer Santana as well. He's just been more consistent than Hosmer.

Two different, separate articles.  One for best deals one for worst.

[Angel Oracle]

7 hours ago, ANAHEIMBOB said:

Have another drink or 5 , I didn't post on this topic. 

Sorry, wrong thread, carry on.

[Erstad Grit]

Shouldn't the article be written after the players sign?  

[Warfarin]

2 minutes ago, Erstad Grit said:

Shouldn't the article be written after the players sign?  

Good point, but it's fun to see who they see as overvalued/undervalued using the "projected" contracts that these players would get.  Obviously if Hosmer somehow only got a 3/36 contract, then yeah, he will change from overvalued to undervalued.  That said, Fangraphs usually seems to be in the ballpark when it comes to projecting contracts.

[Second Base]

I'm beginning to think the way organizations evaluate players will prevent an unproven like Hosmer to be bid too high simply due to age. It's sort of like Jason Heyward, monster contract simply because he was 26, and ignored the fact that his production was largely hit or miss. Teams will learn from that, you'd think.

JD Martinez will likely go the way of Nelson Cruz. Late career breakout, and teams will pay for that sort of offense as long as they can hide it in the DH spot of the lineup.

Darvish is a pitcher and he just hasn't been the same since TJ surgery. Are teams willing to take on that large of a risk for him?

At this point I think Carlos Santana is so underrated that he's become overrated in a short amount of time. Teams will start looking to him as a 5 year option, but given his age and the fact that his power isn't as major of a source as it should be, he could quickly become an unwise investment.

My guess is one of the second tier 1B like LoMo or Duda will end up providing surplus value and on the trade market, there are so many options that I think some team will score a quality 2B for cheap.

[SlappyUtilityMIF]

38 minutes ago, Scotty@AW said:

I'm beginning to think the way organizations evaluate players will prevent an unproven like Hosmer to be bid too high simply due to age. It's sort of like Jason Heyward, monster contract simply because he was 26, and ignored the fact that his production was largely hit or miss. Teams will learn from that, you'd think.

JD Martinez will likely go the way of Nelson Cruz. Late career breakout, and teams will pay for that sort of offense as long as they can hide it in the DH spot of the lineup.

Darvish is a pitcher and he just hasn't been the same since TJ surgery. Are teams willing to take on that large of a risk for him?

At this point I think Carlos Santana is so underrated that he's become overrated in a short amount of time. Teams will start looking to him as a 5 year option, but given his age and the fact that his power isn't as major of a source as it should be, he could quickly become an unwise investment.

My guess is one of the second tier 1B like LoMo or Duda will end up providing surplus value and on the trade market, there are so many options that I think some team will score a quality 2B for cheap.

Duda....Though his first run through the AL was meh other than than the power #'s (HR & RBIS). He actually had more HR's and RBI's per times at bat vs 20+ games in the NL last year... I've always watched his potential from a far and thought he would be a good get. Though now as he is sitting at 32 and his overall game and hitting didn't develop I might look elsewhere. I wouldn't mind him as the DH. But, we've already got 30M rotting away there!

Maybe, Jay Bruce would be better and stick him at 1B?