Lock Trout Down

[Jeff Williams]

That he's ahead by 1 year with that group, says so absolutely!

Trying to copy the pic from my iPhone.  150 HR and Steals at age 25 and 280 days.

ARod 26 and 54 days (not quite a year but 280+54 is 334 and 29 days within a full year).

Strawberry 26 and 105

Bonds 27 and 112

Mays 27 and 136

Sosa 27 and 206

[Stradling]

Go on

[fan_since79]

6 years/$240 million. A cool $40 mill per season.

Locks him down for a good long time (ten seasons counting this year) without breaking the Angels' bank, and also gives Trout a chance to be a free agent again at age 35.

[Blarg]

I have no idea what the hell Jeff is referring to. 

[nando714]

Not going to happen 

he needs to hire boras asap

[Troll Daddy]

He's not signing anything until Harper signs in the off season of 2018.

 

[gotbeer]

It takes 2 to tango.  He already has more money than he will probably need in a lifetime for himself and his future kids.  Teams will be throwing money at him.  He'll go to a team he will want to go to. 

[fan_since79]

3 minutes ago, Jeff Williams said:

Trying to copy the pic from my iPhone.  150 HR and Steals at age 25 and 280 days.

ARod 26 and 54 days (not quite a year but 280+54 is 334 and 29 days within a full year).

Strawberry 26 and 105

Bonds 27 and 112

Mays 27 and 136

Sosa 27 and 206

Now I got it. That's an impressive comparison. Trout is uniquely great.

[fan_since79]

4 minutes ago, Troll Daddy said:

He's not signing anything until Harper signs in the off season.

 

Harper just got extended for 2018. Why does he need to sign this off season?

 

[Troll Daddy]

3 minutes ago, fan_since79 said:

Harper just got extended for 2018. Why does he need to sign this off season?

 

Good question ... I changed the original post already. He won't sign before Harper for good reason. 

but you never know ?

[Ohtaniland]

It's not about money, it's about the big stage. I hope Trout gets a chance to see Jeter's uniform retirement tribute because that's what a postseason legend looks like. Jeets won five championships and played in 158 postseason games. Mike Trout deserves to have his name included in postseason discussions every season. He's that type of special player. Wouldn't it be nice to see Mike Trout playing in the fall classic.

He's got a tough decision to make and we shouldn't hate on him if it doesn't favor us. He definitely wants to win and the Angels need to show him that winning is the organizational priority pronto. 

[Ohtaniland]

33 minutes ago, gotbeer said:

It takes 2 to tango.  He already has more money than he will probably need in a lifetime for himself and his future kids.  Teams will be throwing money at him.  He'll go to a team he will want to go to. 

Yep it's entirely up to Trout. He's in the drivers seat to do whatever he wants to do. 

[fan_since79]

It's not easy to make winning playoff games an organizational priority when you're saddled with over $400 million of contracts on players whose contributions ranged from zero (Hamilton) to mediocre (Wilson) to above average but nothing to write home about (Pujols). And many of the other average players we brought in on the cheap have proven to be big disappointments. Then there's been the disabling injuries. Tough times.

 

Edited May 15, 2017 by fan_since79

[Ohtaniland]

15 minutes ago, fan_since79 said:

It's not easy to make winning playoff games an organizational priority when you're saddled with over $400 million of contracts on players whose contributions ranged from zero (Hamilton) to mediocre (Wilson) to above average but nothing to write home about (Pujols). And many of the other average players we brought in on the cheap have proven to be big disappointments. Then there's been the disabling injuries. Tough times.

 

That's exactly why fans are begging Arte to use Plan B and lock him up now because the opportunity to build a winner around him plan hasn't panned out.

[AngelsLakersFan]

21 minutes ago, fan_since79 said:

It's not easy to make winning playoff games an organizational priority when you're saddled with over $400 million of contracts on players whose contributions ranged from zero (Hamilton) to mediocre (Wilson) to above average but nothing to write home about (Pujols). And many of the other average players we brought in on the cheap have proven to be big disappointments. Then there's been the disabling injuries. Tough times.

 

Bad contracts are just a scapegoat. Trout is worth $80 million per year on the open market, the $80 mil we wasted on Hamilton is a drop in the bucket in comparison. Where is the rest of the team!?!?

[Troll Daddy]

5 minutes ago, AngelsLakersFan said:

Bad contracts are just a scapegoat. Trout is worth $80 million per year on the open market, the $80 mil we wasted on Hamilton is a drop in the bucket in comparison. Where is the rest of the team!?!?

Then Mathis is worth $40M a year 

[AngelsLakersFan]

1 minute ago, Troll Daddy said:

Then Mathis is worth $40M a year 

LOL! He's lucky if he's worth $4!

[Stradling]

4 minutes ago, Troll Daddy said:

Then Mathis is worth $40M a year 

Possibly your worst attempt ever and that's saying a lot. 

[Troll Daddy]

Just now, Stradling said:

Possibly your worst attempt ever and that's saying a lot. 

Sorry you don't get it

[Junkballer]

1 hour ago, fan_since79 said:

6 years/$240 million. A cool $40 mill per season.

Locks him down for a good long time (ten seasons counting this year) without breaking the Angels' bank, and also gives Trout a chance to be a free agent again at age 35.

That's too old for it to be a positive point for Trout.  If it's not going to be a retirement contract you'll have to up the $/per by quite a big margin and have the contract end while he is still in his prime so as to command a top tier contract.  It isn't going to happen because he will get retirement contract offers.  You have to go into it thinking you will be paying the biggest total dollar amount contract in history or just forget about it.  There will be no cutting corners or clipping coupons.  Also, it is in our favor to wait until his contract is nearly up to make offers because until the Angels demonstrate that they can build a team that can compete, why on earth would he consider signing here for any amount of money.

[Stradling]

1 minute ago, Troll Daddy said:

Sorry you don't get it

Yea I'm the problem with that post.  

[Jeff Fletcher]

1 hour ago, fan_since79 said:

6 years/$240 million. A cool $40 mill per season.

Locks him down for a good long time (ten seasons counting this year) without breaking the Angels' bank, and also gives Trout a chance to be a free agent again at age 35.

Who would want to be a free agent at 35?

[Troll Daddy]

1 minute ago, Stradling said:

Yea I'm the problem with that post.  

Now you get it

[Junkballer]

I was thinking about whether Arte would really jump in and be aggressive about keeping Trout and wondered about offering a stake in the Angels as part of the package.  It turns out that isn't allowed, however, I don't think there is anything that prevents some type of arrangement regarding Arte's advertising business.  Not going to happen, I know, but really this subject depresses me because I think the chances of him signing here are low.

[tomsred]

If you go with signing extending Trout then you very well may be giving up on aggressively signing a significant number of other free agents.  You will have to build your team around Trout and a whole range of young players from a very strong farm system, which we have rarely had.  It's a serious dilemma.  How do you commit to the most expensive guy in baseball, and still have enough funds to provide enough quality around him to win championships on a regular basis?  And putting everything into one, or very few, baskets exposes the team to great risk if those assets get hurt.  There will have to be some creative contract construction on this one.  The team simply can't commit to Trout, and continue to make the same kind of other player selection decisions like they have made for the past ten years or so.  We better have a really strong front office.