The unofficial "Trump's cabinet" thread

[Amazing Larry]

According to the libs here, yes.

[Make Angels Great Again]

1 minute ago, InsideThePark said:

 Calm down, Trumpster - I don't think it's much of an issue.

I don't think Trump worships Putin, he just doesn't want another cold war. And surprise, Russia doesn't seem to either.

There are members of your newly adopted party who aren't crazy about the romance lol

 

You're right, maybe we should accuse them of hacking our election (in extremely vague ways by the way) with zero supporting evidence. I'm sure that will help diplomatic relations.

Jokers like Lindsey Graham can say whatever he wants, he's still a moron.

[red321]

6 minutes ago, Make Angels Great Again said:

 

You're right, maybe we should accuse them of hacking our election (in extremely vague ways by the way) with zero supporting evidence. I'm sure that will help diplomatic relations.

Jokers like Lindsey Graham can say whatever he wants, he's still a moron.

Exactly...I mean...that's ignoring the multiple reports from various government agencies that the Russians actively worked to help Trump's campaign....but besides that...you are spot on

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/obama-orders-review-of-russian-hacking-during-presidential-campaign/2016/12/09/31d6b300-be2a-11e6-94ac-3d324840106c_story.html

 

[InsideThePark]

8 minutes ago, Make Angels Great Again said:

 

You're right, maybe we should accuse them of hacking our election (in extremely vague ways by the way) with zero supporting evidence. I'm sure that will help diplomatic relations.

Jokers like Lindsey Graham can say whatever he wants, he's still a moron.

Lol @ "zero supporting evidence." How would you even know that? Even the FBI thinks it was Russia, and most of those guys don't appear to be Democrats. It's probably best to wait for the investigation to conclude before you start mouthing off unfounded claims, much like your hero.

[Make Angels Great Again]

1 minute ago, red321 said:

Exactly...I mean...that's ignoring the multiple reports from various government agencies that the Russians actively worked to help Trump's campaign....but besides that...you are spot on

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/obama-orders-review-of-russian-hacking-during-presidential-campaign/2016/12/09/31d6b300-be2a-11e6-94ac-3d324840106c_story.html

 

 

There's no evidence, Washington Post's (highly biased paper) source was an "anonymous CIA source." AKA they made it up.

FBI released an official statement that there was no evidence of hacking, and an associate of Assange said that it was a leak, not a hack.

[Make Angels Great Again]

1 minute ago, InsideThePark said:

Lol @ "zero supporting evidence." How would you even know that? Even the FBI thinks it was Russia, and most of those guys don't appear to be Democrats. It's probably best to wait for the investigation to conclude before you start mouthing off unfounded claims, much like your hero.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/01/us/politics/fbi-russia-election-donald-trump.html

[Make Angels Great Again]

Hey @InsideThePark and @red321

[red321]

6 minutes ago, Make Angels Great Again said:

 

There's no evidence, Washington Post's (highly biased paper) source was an "anonymous CIA source." AKA they made it up.

FBI released an official statement that there was no evidence of hacking, and an associate of Assange said that it was a leak, not a hack.

I'd ask if you bothered to read the WP report...but I'm pretty sure we all know the answer.

And it's good to see you reach back a month or so to "counter" argue. Your comment regarding Assange is laughable at best...especially if you consider the fact that they timed the DNC releases around key dates (the DNC, just prior to debates, etc)...and did it in a drip drip fashion.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/11/us/politics/cia-judgment-intelligence-russia-hacking-evidence.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/09/us/obama-russia-election-hack.html

 

[InsideThePark]

5 minutes ago, Make Angels Great Again said:

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/01/us/politics/fbi-russia-election-donald-trump.html

That article was from several weeks ago lol

https://www.yahoo.com/news/russia-helped-trump-win-says-163825418.html

Meanwhile, in an intelligence briefing last week, a senior FBI official had a different assessment: The Russians were definitely meddling with the DNC — but why is anyone’s guess.

“There’s no question that [the Russians’] efforts went one way, but it’s not clear that they have a specific goal or mix of related goals,” said one U.S. official, according to the Chicago Tribune.

 I'm pretty sure they wouldn't say that with "zero supporting evidence."

[InsideThePark]

16 minutes ago, Make Angels Great Again said:

Hey @InsideThePark and @red321

I didn't whine about rigging. But as I recall, you were the one complaining about stories of "rigged" voting machines lol

[Thomas]

3 minutes ago, InsideThePark said:

Lol @ "zero supporting evidence." How would you even know that? Even the FBI thinks it was Russia, and most of those guys don't appear to be Democrats. It's probably best to wait for the investigation to conclude before you start mouthing off unfounded claims, much like your hero.

 

5 minutes ago, red321 said:

Exactly...I mean...that's ignoring the multiple reports from various government agencies that the Russians actively worked to help Trump's campaign....but besides that...you are spot on

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/obama-orders-review-of-russian-hacking-during-presidential-campaign/2016/12/09/31d6b300-be2a-11e6-94ac-3d324840106c_story.html

 

It's extremely unlikely any of the servers that were hacked were secure enough to require anything beyond off the shelf exploits. Likely if we were ever made privy to the vulnerability that was employed it would be...cringe worthy.  If it was a state agency it is exceedingly unlikely they left behind any signature that could be obtained via post-mortum forensics. Trying to determine the source of an information compromise is a needle in a haystack when the attackers are idiots.  If they are skilled? With political barriers? Yeah right. If it was through a non-state agency how can we be sure who they were really working on behalf of? The articles about this refer to the CIA's opinion as being a consensus so it would seem reasonable to assume they are working with best effort assumptions. It really doesn't help that the "blame Russia" for any "cyber instrusion" has become so cliché as to become a meme in the information security field. And with such a shaky foundation how can one make a reasonably sound assumption on motivation. Are any of the following scenarios any less likely than the other?

1.  Concerted effort to help Trump at the expense of Hillary
2.  Concerted effort to hurt any candidate for POTUS, nothing available against Trump that is worse than what he says on a daily basis.
3. Concerted effort to hurt any candidate for POTUS, Republicans actually decent in IT security.
4. 3rd party against Hillary, using Russians as patsies.
So on and so on.

 

[gotbeer]

Right now, my guess is the CIA is hacking everything in Russia, Britain, Saudi Arabia, and probably every other country in the world including the US.  That's what orgs like this were built for.

What doesn't make sense is the government of Russia releasing the information.  Because I would think in espionage and hacking, you don't want the opposing party to know you have that information.  You just keep stealing information until the opposition figures it out. 

My guess would be.  Yes the government of Russia hacked this data.  But with how lax the security was, my guess would also be, that a lot of other hackers also hacked this data.  And those are the one's that would release the information for the LOL's.

[Make Angels Great Again]

2 minutes ago, InsideThePark said:

That article was from several weeks ago lol

https://www.yahoo.com/news/russia-helped-trump-win-says-163825418.html

Meanwhile, in an intelligence briefing last week, a senior FBI official had a different assessment: The Russians were definitely meddling with the DNC — but why is anyone’s guess.

“There’s no question that [the Russians’] efforts went one way, but it’s not clear that they have a specific goal or mix of related goals,” said one U.S. official, according to the Chicago Tribune.

 I'm pretty sure they wouldn't say that with "zero supporting evidence."

 

And what does "meddling" mean?

If you're going to accuse another super power country of stuff like this you better be damned sure.

Anyone with half a brain knows Russia wanted Trump to win as opposed to Clinton so that we didn't have to go to war, that doesn't mean they did anything illegal to cause it.

[Thomas]

1 minute ago, gotbeer said:

Right now, my guess is the CIA is hacking everything in Russia, Britain, Saudi Arabia, and probably every other country in the world including the US.

Well you're on the list now.

[Make Angels Great Again]

Here's a good take on this. Former UK ambassador Craig Murray.

 

https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2016/12/cias-absence-conviction/

[gotbeer]

2 minutes ago, Thomas said:

Well you're on the list now.

I think I've been on the list for a while. 

[Adam]

So is having your nation's national election compromised under your administration's watch an impeachable offense? 

[red321]

22 minutes ago, Make Angels Great Again said:

 

And what does "meddling" mean?

If you're going to accuse another super power country of stuff like this you better be damned sure.

Anyone with half a brain knows Russia wanted Trump to win as opposed to Clinton so that we didn't have to go to war, that doesn't mean they did anything illegal to cause it.

 

 

[AngelsLakersFan]

3 hours ago, Make Angels Great Again said:

 

There's no evidence, Washington Post's (highly biased paper) source was an "anonymous CIA source." AKA they made it up.

FBI released an official statement that there was no evidence of hacking, and an associate of Assange said that it was a leak, not a hack.

Im actually starting to read your posts in a Trump voice.

[Make Angels Great Again]

Ha, I kinda did type that post in the way that he speaks.

[gotbeer]

Trump packs trade team with veterans of steel wars with China

This will be interesting.  If I remember right, in regards to Japan in the 70's-80's.  It lead to a lot of investments in the US.  With a lot of tech and auto manufacturers making factories in the US. 

[Spirit]

3 hours ago, Adam said:

So is having your nation's national election compromised under your administration's watch an impeachable offense? 

 

It should be!

 

 

 

[Jay]

4 hours ago, Adam said:

So is having your nation's national election compromised under your administration's watch an impeachable offense? 

One month left... get it done!

 

[Ordos]

4 hours ago, Adam said:

So is having your nation's national election compromised under your administration's watch an impeachable offense? 

When administrators faced no real punishment for revealing a CIA operative, I doubt we will see anything here. But, frankly, when was the last time any of us actually made waves of things to our representatives, rather than simply posting diatribes on a message board?

[Adam]

You mean when have we last written or called our congressman? haha

Just looked up my rep. Mimi Walters (R). She's got an office in Irvine. Do people actually go to their congressmens' offices?