Bernie's free college idea

[Angelsjunky]

I can tell you, 10000000% Bernie would ruin my life if he got his way.

 

Really? Because he raised your tax rate by a few percent? How can your life be that volatile?

[nate]

Because my wife and I both work for health insurance companies.

[Adam]

[OregonLAA]

That explains a lot

[Crampknees]

Because my wife and I both work for health insurance companies.

nate, he may need a health insurance czar.  

[Jay]

Negatory there good buddy, I don't roger that, my life is great, echo zulu Obama out. 

 

I'm glad your life is going well.

 

But all your little buddies on the Sanders bandwagon are complaining that their lives are messed up.  They can't do this, they can't do that. They don't have this, they don't have that.

 

Thanks Obama!

[ABC]

AJ clearly makes lie $20K/year, which was obvious.

Though I did have him pegged for college junior, which apparently is incorrect. That said, there is no doubt he's no older than early 30's, has never made more than $50k/year. He has an education from a liberal school, but I'm actually leaning towards just a HS education. Maybe some JC.

I think someone else, probably a family member, does his taxes. Since it's clear, based upon what he says, he's in the work force, he works in some sort of social services/govt job with little/slow hopes of signifant salary increase. He comes from a liberal family (per him, not a single mom), and his dad had limited upward mobility as well.

Sorry AJ. Boom. Say I'm wrong for all these AW'ers, but you still know I'm spot on.

 

 

I imagined a 50-something, went to school for almost nothing with a liberal arts/English degree, now working in the visitor center of a small, artsy tourist town. Librarian maybe. Hippie definitely. Drives a 90s Subaru. Still has a tube TV. 

[Adam]

AJ clearly makes lie $20K/year, which was obvious.

Though I did have him pegged for college junior, which apparently is incorrect. That said, there is no doubt he's no older than early 30's, has never made more than $50k/year. He has an education from a liberal school, but I'm actually leaning towards just a HS education. Maybe some JC.

I think someone else, probably a family member, does his taxes. Since it's clear, based upon what he says, he's in the work force, he works in some sort of social services/govt job with little/slow hopes of signifant salary increase. He comes from a liberal family (per him, not a single mom), and his dad had limited upward mobility as well.

Sorry AJ. Boom. Say I'm wrong for all these AW'ers, but you still know I'm spot on.

This is fun. We should do it for everyone.

I think AJ mentioned he's an educator or administrator.

I'm guessing a very liberal upbringing from parents who constantly slammed the likes of Reagan, Charlton Heston and the NRA. Dad was a dem. Mom reluctantly voted dem but was way more liberal.

He wanted to make them proud and mimicked their enthusiasm for hating conservatives.

I bet he went to small private liberal college. Not a university. His first lay was probably a weird chick. Possibly Asian.

Edited February 12, 2016 by Adam

[Angelsjunky]

LOL, these are pretty funny. Adam, weird chicks are great lays. Sometimes.

 

I'm actually a hedge fund manager. I exploit dark-skinned people, drive a Hummer, wear $400 cologne that was tested on the eyes of baby bunnies, wear a platinum Patek Philippe during the week and an Audemars Piguet Offshore on weekends to commemorate the money I hide in offshore accounts. I shoot rhinos and elephants for fun, and surprise every new girlfriend/mistress with going for "the deuce hole" on the first date. Oh yeah, I was one of the dudes wearing a robe in Eyes Wide Shut.

 

But I love Bernie because my wife is a liberal.

Edited February 12, 2016 by Angelsjunky

[Adam]

Now THAT was funny, AJ

[halobob]

I make about $45k a year working in a warehouse that didn't require any kind of degree. I work my ass off at this job like I have at any other job. My wife went to Oregon State and got her masters at Pepperdine. Maybe going out of state for her masters wasn't the most amazing idea, but now we have lots of school debt. I'm not complaining and we will eventually pay it off but right now she makes just a little more than me. So my wife who is incredibly bright and ambitious makes as much as me who didn't go to school. Meanwhile we have to hold off on buying a house until the school debt goes down quite a ways. I'm not wealthy, but I'm not poor. The money we make is decent for where we live. Two hard working people who have a long way to go to achieve their goals in the current system. Sorry if Sanders isn't scaring me off.

And I love how people act as if the parasites only reside in the lower class. How about the assholes who lay off thousands of workers them give themselves a $10 million bonus. Those aren't just criminals. Those are parasites and people who have the money to control politics. And who do they control? The conservative side who doesn't want to tax them. Sorry that I see them as being the bigger evil

You do realize Sanders policies are the worst for people making 50-120K which seems to be your exact situation?

[Make Angels Great Again]

^

Could you elaborate on that?

[Lou]

Why shouldn't it be? The world is changing.

 

 

Lou, I'm pretty sure you're not a young guy - if I remember correctly you're in your 50s or so, which would make your dad in his 70s? The cost of living has gone way up over the last 40+ years.

 

All that said, I don't disagree with the gist of what you're saying, although I think in the end it is most important to be a kid when you're a kid and try not to worry so much about adult life problems. Having a rich and full childhood is going to serve them more in the long run than getting the best possible grades. I just think it important to emphasize how much cost of living has changed.

50s? Gonna change my name to Valdy

Sure the cost of living has gone up, but so has income.

If you want a more recent example, my 2 oldest nieces and nephews have graduated from college (1 is in Grad School), 1 is currently attending Missouri and another is in the process of deciding which school she will attend.

Btw, I had a very rich and full childhood. But I also attended class, studied and did all of my homework. What fulfilling activity do kids occupy their weeknights with these days that will serve them better than being educated?

[Angelsjunky]

50s? Gonna change my name to Valdy

Sure the cost of living has gone up, but so has income.

If you want a more recent example, my 2 oldest nieces and nephews have graduated from college (1 is in Grad School), 1 is currently attending Missouri and another is in the process of deciding which school she will attend.

Btw, I had a very rich and full childhood. But I also attended class, studied and did all of my homework. What fulfilling activity do kids occupy their weeknights with these days that will serve them better than being educated?

 

Playing.

[nate]

AJ you still haven't explained to me why 1 million middle class families are not as important as the lower class families that don't currently have healthcare.

[Angelsjunky]

Huh? I didn't know that was a question. What are you talking about?

[ABC]

Playing.

 

I think both are very important. Northern Asian countries are nuts are harmful to children with their education demands while the US, in general, puts far too few demands on students. To top it off, the US education system is flawed and outdated with regards to teaching philosophies, student motivation, balance of coursework, physical education, etc. 

[mtangelsfan]

AJ you still haven't explained to me why 1 million middle class families are not as important as the lower class families that don't currently have healthcare.

 

Exactly.  Not just the million who work for health insurance companies.  What about all of the middle class families who actually have good healthcare and are very happy with their doctors, network and what it costs them?

[Blarg]

Guilty as charged.

Anyhow, as I said before I see two extreme views, of which "capitalism" and "socialism" are the socioeconomic expressions. Very few people, at least in this country, are fully one or the other (although some think they are, without realizing they support at least some of what the other view has to say). My view is that "the great American experiment" has to do with how to integrate the best of both worlds in a dialectical manner. Clearly we're not there yet, but as I see it we've veered so far towards the capitalist extreme that we need to incorporate more of the socialist.

I'm reminded of that old question: Do you think it is more important that everyone can go as far as possible in life, or that everyone has equal opportunity? I can't choose one over the other - they're both true.

I'd rather people reach for the highest level possible, that is the whole purpose focused life objective. It is what brings you advances in both the sciences and arts.

The other cobbles the society to accept marginal results by making everything inclusive. It kills inspiration and creates the gray dark world of compliance with the emphasis of no one standing out. Everyone called comrade rather than some definition of their value over just being there.

[nate]

Huh? I didn't know that was a question. What are you talking about?

 

1 million middle class american families are employed by health insurance companies.  You want to put all of them out of the job.

 

So I just want to hear how you can justify all of those hard working families now being jobless.  All of those children now possibly going hungry, not having the nice things they had or the comforts their parents earned for them.

[HaloMagic]

What about all the families of the people that are employed by the military and the defense industry that you would so gleefully make jobless with massive cuts to the budget?

[wopphil]

What about all the families of the people that are employed by the military and the defense industry that you would so gleefully make jobless with massive cuts to the budget?

Damn.

[Tank]

Oh man, this is about to get good again.

[OregonLAA]

You do realize Sanders policies are the worst for people making 50-120K which seems to be your exact situation?

Worst for people making millions. But you should explain because maybe I don't know. Also I don't make 50k. Pay attention.

[wopphil]

Oh man, this is about to get good again.

It really is. I wanted to post that gif of the black guy eating popcorn, or the guidos at the basketball game, but I don't know how to post gifs.