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[Jason]

24 minutes ago, St1ck said:

You still haven't answered why it was "good."

Limiting the amount of debt the feds can accrue is needed. Why keep raising it when they will never pay it down? It’s never going to end 

[St1ck]

5 minutes ago, Jason said:

Limiting the amount of debt the feds can accrue is needed. Why keep raising it when they will never pay it down? It’s never going to end 

This isn't limiting spending it is agreeing to pay off what has already been spent. If you want to limit spending going forward, fine that's an argument but that's not what this is. 

 

 

 

Edited September 28, 2021 by St1ck

[Jason]

4 minutes ago, St1ck said:

This isn't limiting spending it is agreeing to pay off what has already been spent. If you want to limit spending going forward, fine that's an argument but that's not what this is. 

 

 

 

I guess this is where I have a problem because that is never going to happen moving forward. At what point does this cycle end? The amount the ceiling has been raised as kept climbing and climbing because they won’t stop spending. I get it the federal government has gotten so large that there is no going back. I guess we’re fucked either way so it probably doesn’t matter in the long run 

[Crampknees]

7:45am CST and no Branco yet.  C'mon Redondo, where is my morning Branco?

[gotbeer]

10 hours ago, St1ck said:

Incorrect.

Debt Limit | U.S. Department of the Treasury
https://home.treasury.gov/policy-issues/financial-markets-financial-institutions-and-fiscal-service/debt-limit

The debt limit does not authorize new spending commitments. It simply allows the government to finance existing legal obligations that Congresses and presidents of both parties have made in the past.

 

So what happens when there is no debt limit?  Because that's one of the big reasons why this bill is being blocked.

[St1ck]

1 hour ago, gotbeer said:

So what happens when there is no debt limit?  Because that's one of the big reasons why this bill is being blocked.

What happens if Congress doesn't raise the debt ceiling? - CBS News
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/debt-ceiling-limit-congress-united-states-economy/

 

[gotbeer]

3 minutes ago, St1ck said:

What happens if Congress doesn't raise the debt ceiling? - CBS News
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/debt-ceiling-limit-congress-united-states-economy/

 

That's not what congress wants though.  They want to suspend the debt limit till December 2022.  

[Catwhoshatinthehat]

This is more about political maneuvering than it is paying the countries bills.  As gotbeer pointed out the dems are trying to suspend the debt limit until December 2022 which the reps have said since July they won't support doing.  They have said they'll support the federal spending extension just not when it's coupled with suspending the debt limit so if the dems are that worried about a shutdown they can agree to just the federal spending extension.  The dems are also trying to push through a $3.5T spending package with plenty of pork/add-ons/pet projects to push their agenda and they're even having issues getting the votes from their own party to make this happen.  Both sides do it but it doesn't make it right and we need to think long and hard about adding more debt in the way of continued deficits but that won't happen.  When the shoe is on the other foot we'll see the same maneuvering, agenda pushing and bloated spending out of the reps.

[Lhalo]

Finally, a study to back up what we knew all along.

62% of 'liberal' or 'very liberal' whites have mental health condition

According to a Pew Research Center survey, 62% percent of Whites who classify themselves as “very liberal” or “liberal” has been told by a doctor they have a mental health condition. Only 26% of conservatives and 20% of moderates have been told they have such a condition, the study found.

https://www.wnd.com/2021/09/62-liberal-liberal-whites-mental-health-condition/

[St1ck]

16 minutes ago, Lhalo said:

Finally, a study to back up what we knew all along.

62% of 'liberal' or 'very liberal' whites have mental health condition

According to a Pew Research Center survey, 62% percent of Whites who classify themselves as “very liberal” or “liberal” has been told by a doctor they have a mental health condition. Only 26% of conservatives and 20% of moderates have been told they have such a condition, the study found.

https://www.wnd.com/2021/09/62-liberal-liberal-whites-mental-health-condition/

That's one hell of an article. 

[Kotchman]

26 minutes ago, Lhalo said:

Finally, a study to back up what we knew all along.

62% of 'liberal' or 'very liberal' whites have mental health condition

According to a Pew Research Center survey, 62% percent of Whites who classify themselves as “very liberal” or “liberal” has been told by a doctor they have a mental health condition. Only 26% of conservatives and 20% of moderates have been told they have such a condition, the study found.

https://www.wnd.com/2021/09/62-liberal-liberal-whites-mental-health-condition/

Seems about right. 

[Crampknees]

59 minutes ago, Lhalo said:

Finally, a study to back up what we knew all along.

62% of 'liberal' or 'very liberal' whites have mental health condition

According to a Pew Research Center survey, 62% percent of Whites who classify themselves as “very liberal” or “liberal” has been told by a doctor they have a mental health condition. Only 26% of conservatives and 20% of moderates have been told they have such a condition, the study found.

https://www.wnd.com/2021/09/62-liberal-liberal-whites-mental-health-condition/

For Larry Fucks sake.  An article from the "Left Unhinged."  I hope this was a joke and you really don't frequent those sites.  I would call that a mental health condition that needs to be addressed. 

[gotbeer]

[T.G.]

WorldNetDaily

[Lhalo]

It was a Pew Research Study. Don't blame me, I'm just the messenger!

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/apr/22/white-liberals-more-likely-have-mental-health-cond/

[Kotchman]

1 hour ago, Lhalo said:

It was a Pew Research Study. Don't blame me, I'm just the messenger!

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/apr/22/white-liberals-more-likely-have-mental-health-cond/

 these libs dispute some of the most basic biological concepts. How else can you describe them ?

Edited September 28, 2021 by Kotchman

[T.G.]

It's funny... I can't find any publication that links to the actual PEW study.

One sight references Pew American Trends Panel: Wave 64 - but doesn't link to it.  I searched for it...

Well, here is the  link to that study:

https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/dataset/american-trends-panel-wave-64/

https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2020/03/26/worries-about-coronavirus-surge-as-most-americans-expect-a-recession-or-worse/

And that study doesn't touch on mental health at all. I only glanced through it, but I didn't see anything.

It's my nature to question outlandish stuff like this... I usually find it's all smoke.

[Jay]

1 minute ago, True Grich said:

It's my nature to question outlandish stuff like this... I usually find it's all smoke.

If it's on the internet it must be true.

[Taylor]

Even if it were true, shaming people with mental health conditions is so 1980s. 

Larry must think that to have a mental health condition, it means you're a paranoid schizophrenic and/or psychotic. 

[Jay]

5 minutes ago, Taylor said:

Even if it were true, shaming people with mental health conditions is so 1980s. 

Larry must think that to have a mental health condition, it means you're a paranoid schizophrenic and/or psychotic. 

So true. It can also mean you're a lib.

 

[T.G.]

7 minutes ago, Taylor said:

Even if it were true, shaming people with mental health conditions is so 1980s.

Better not read my comments to AO then....

[Lhalo]

16 minutes ago, True Grich said:

It's funny... I can't find any publication that links to the actual PEW study.

One sight references Pew American Trends Panel: Wave 64 - but doesn't link to it.  I searched for it...

Well, here is the  link to that study:

https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/dataset/american-trends-panel-wave-64/

https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2020/03/26/worries-about-coronavirus-surge-as-most-americans-expect-a-recession-or-worse/

And that study doesn't touch on mental health at all. I only glanced through it, but I didn't see anything.

It's my nature to question outlandish stuff like this... I usually find it's all smoke.

Here I'll help you. It's all in the thread. He glanced a little harder I guess.

 

[Lhalo]

Opinion: CNN is awfully quiet about Chris Cuomo

 

CNN isn’t a quiet place. As American politics and media have gotten louder and louder, so have its hosts and commentators, whether the topic is former president Donald Trump’s threat to the country, the ravages of Fox News or the natural disaster of the week.

Yet a hush has settled in at the network over journalist Shelley Ross’s claim that CNN host Chris Cuomo grabbed her buttock in 2005. In an opinion piece in the New York Times, Ross, who served as Cuomo’s boss at ABC’s “Primetime Live,” recounted how she ran into Cuomo at a going-away party for a colleague at a Manhattan bar. "I can do this now that you’re no longer my boss,” Cuomo reportedly told Ross after the grab. “No you can’t,” Ross responded, pushing Cuomo away.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/09/27/chris-cuomo-cnn-sexual-harassment-response/?utm_campaign=wp_opinions&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter

[T.G.]

7 minutes ago, Lhalo said:

Here I'll help you. It's all in the thread. He glanced a little harder I guess.

 

I followed the link he provided...

https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/dataset/covid-19-late-march-2020/

I don't see any of those charts/data in the study.

[Crampknees]

5 minutes ago, Lhalo said:

grabbed her buttock

His defense will be she was actually shot in the buttock and he didn't grab her.