New Evidence Regarding Napoli/Mathis

[Stradling]

At the time I didn't care that Nap was traded. He wasn't that good for us. I thought Rivera sucked and wanted him gone. I don't even remember if we tried Nap at 1B.

We can all look back now and claim we knew Nap was great but the truth is he wasn't great.

You don't remember Napoli being our everyday first baseman after Morales broke his ankle? Napoli did a pretty good job considering he'd never played there before.

[Section517]

Napoli reminded me of the patient hitters on the 2002 Angels roster who weren't corrupted by Scioscia's offensive philosophy of hacking away at anything within a foot of the outer/inner black of the plate.

Edited May 31, 2015 by Section517

[yk9001]

How do they come up with a 91 run differential?

[Stradling]

How do they come up with a 91 run differential?

I'm guessing the same way they come up with something like DWAR

[Michifan]

I think what was also a bitter pill is the year after he left, he hit 320 with 30 HRs and an ops of 1.045 for the Rangers in only 113 games. Wells certainly wasn't that. 

[ABC]

The Effectively Wild Podcast discussed a new Baseball Prospectus metric on catcher game calling. At the end Sam Miller asked for a comparison of Mathis and Napoli the year before Napoli was traded.

Mathis saved 58 runs

Napoli saved -33 runs

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=26493

 

I think Nap became a better catcher once Sosh stopped micromanaging and trying to make him a mini-me behind the plate. Nap was never able to relax with Sosh watching and criticizing everything. He even became a better hitter once he stopped walking on eggshells and worried about what Sosh thinks about his last squat. 

[ABC]

How do they come up with a 91 run differential?

 

Another BS stat.

[AngelsLakersFan]

I'm guessing the same way they come up with something like DWAR

 

I'm not sure there is a 91 run differential between Barry Bonds bat and a replacement level hitter...

[BleedRed]

Amazing that 4 years later the Mathis-Naps thing can arouse such interest.I guess the last series with the Sux was a reminder of what might have been.

[Vegas Halo Fan]

I think what was also a bitter pill is the year after he left, he hit 320 with 30 HRs and an ops of 1.045 for the Rangers in only 113 games. Wells certainly wasn't that. 

 

He was also one out away from being the MVP in the 2011 World Series.

[Jay]

You don't remember Napoli being our everyday first baseman after Morales broke his ankle? Napoli did a pretty good job considering he'd never played there before.

Yeah I guess I forgot about that. Anyway he was .238/.316/.468 that year.

[Lou]

How do they come up with a 91 run differential?

 

 they just guess

 

nerds

[ELEVEN]

He was also one out away from being the MVP in the 2011 World Series.

Yeah but there is quite a Gulf between then and now.

[Mark68]

Angels pitching has regressed every year since Mathis was dealt.  Not a coincidence.

So it's still regressing?

[yk9001]

So, just a 91 run difference between two catchers in one year, and we are supposed to believe it.

 

Show your work, folks.

[Tank]

always liked the guy that showed up at a game in anaheim wearing a full nuns habit. had a large sign that read: MARRY ME MATHIS

 

i miss stickboy.

[Tank]

So, just a 91 run difference between two catchers in one year, and we are supposed to believe it.

 

Show your work, folks.

 

yeah, this is especially curious since sosh called quite a few of the pitches then.

[Angel Oracle]

I am hoping that Sosh doesn't micro manage Perez and Bandy.

I'm not saying that Sosh doesn't benefit catchers here. Just that pushing them too hard could have the opposite effect if they are trying to be too perfect behind the plate.

Edited June 1, 2015 by Angel Oracle

[shellback]

the growth process with perez and bandy will be interesting to watch

[IEAngelsfan]

i miss stickboy.

Ok, I chuckled.

[Troll Daddy]

There's probably at least six million reasons why we didn't keep Napoli.

[Adam]

Napoli has been a great catcher with Boston