GameDay Thread 9/16/14 M's @ Angels

[joeywings]

It isn't the amount of innings, it's the pitch count. He had thrown 17 pitches the previous 2 innings and was only at 43 pitches. He threw 49 in his previous start. The heat wasn't bothering him through the first 4 innings, so there was really no reason why he couldn't have at least started the 5th.

 

This inning has now been a complete disaster when it could have otherwise been avoided.

Problem is, on his next outing, he wouldn't believe Sosh will only leave him in there for 4 innings or 40 pitches .

So, he might nibble or pace himself.

Sosh has this theory, you tell him yay long only and stick with it.

[disarcina]

I would have kept Rasmus in to start the fifth -- chances are he would have had a quick inning and then you bring in the pen for the sixth.

 

but that's water under the bridge now.

 

Grilli got knocked around tonight but to be fair, the mis-played ball by Trout is what made it a big inning --(but that ball was hit hard and well, caught or NOT).

 

Grilli's been effective (more effective than Frieri - not a high bar to be sure) since coming over -- guys are going to have rough patches -- tonight was Grilli's turn.

 

we can still win this game and Oakland is losing.........so no doomsday for a team leading the division by 10.5 games.

[Blarg]

It isn't the amount of innings, it's the pitch count. He had thrown 17 pitches the previous 2 innings and was only at 43 pitches. He threw 49 in his previous start. The heat wasn't bothering him through the first 4 innings, so there was really no reason why he couldn't have at least started the 5th.

 

This inning has now been a complete disaster when it could have otherwise been avoided.

 

You say the heat wasn't bothering him but he walked off the mound in the fourth covered in sweat. You guys are arguing out of events that took place not what was sensible. Innings means warm up pitches, not just those pitches counted per inning. Add in the heat and there is reasonable cause to sit him after being solid for as many innings as they had planned. 

[tdawg87]

Problem is, on his next outing, he wouldn't believe Sosh will only leave him in there for 4 innings or 40 pitches .

So, he might nibble or pace himself.

Sosh has this theory, you tell him yay long only and stick with it.

 

.....what?

[Mark68]

No "Season over" post?

 

You guys disappoint me.

Well, since Shoe's next start is being skipped, season over?

[joeywings]

.....what?

Remember Aaron Sele ?

5 innings only, no matter what .

[bloodbrother]

Good news is, this game is now battle of the bullpens.

Even if we're losing.

 

That's not exactly good news. Mariners have lowest bullpen ERA in MLB. They're really good there. The main advantage is this pen has been the best post ASB and this offense is obviously far better than Seattle

[Mark68]

.1IP 4ER for Grilli. Dude sucks. Has given up so many line drives that have been fortunately caught while he's been with us. You guys think he's actually good.

Like some people think Ted Nugent is good....at something productive.

[tennischmp]

4 innings was longer than he pitched last outing. 

He was at 43 pitches and has pitches 49, 49, and 51 pitches the past 3 out of the 4 starts.

[Blarg]

And he still blew his arm out.

 

Remember Aaron Sele ?

5 innings only, no matter what .

[tdawg87]

You say the heat wasn't bothering him but he walked off the mound in the fourth covered in sweat. You guys are arguing out of events that took place not what was sensible. Innings means warm up pitches, not just those pitches counted per inning. Add in the heat and there is reasonable cause to sit him after being solid for as many innings as they had planned. 

 

Well yeah, people sweat in the heat. It's a natural bodily function.

 

And if we're counting warm up pitches for some reason, then he still threw more pitches in his previous start. And his first start.

[Ender]

Good news is, this game is now battle of the bullpens.

Even if we're losing.

 

Our bullpen is pretty decent.

[Ohtaniland]

Nice hustle there Albert.

[Bruce Nye]

Angels just want to see Rodney and his arrow slinging.  

 

(Aaron Sele comment?  LOL)

[Inside Pitch]

Grilli sucked and all but Mike Trout played that into a huge inning.   

[Blarg]

Well yeah, people sweat in the heat. It's a natural bodily function.

 

And if we're counting warm up pitches for some reason, then he still threw more pitches in his previous start. And his first start.

 

It wasn't 98 degress out.

[Inside Pitch]

Nice hustle there Albert.

 

He should try so hard he blows out his hammy.

[Waybackman]

If we lose this game it's easy to see why. Hamilton is back in the lineup. He is bad Karma.

[joeywings]

And he still blew his arm out.

He had an arm ?

[joeywings]

If we lose this game it's easy to see why. Hamilton is back in the lineup. He is bad Karma.

lol

And the sombrero.

Edited September 17, 2014 by joeywings

[Stradling]

Or if we lose this game it's because the pen had a rare off night.

[martinpa25]

Wtf?! Dare I say the blowpen is back?

[Mark68]

It wasn't 98 degress out.

Good...cuz 98 degrees sucks as a band and as a temperature.

[bloodbrother]

Well this is some nostalgia. Return of the blowpen tonight I guess

 

Game is going south quickly

[Blarg]

Remember Aaron Sele ?

5 innings only, no matter what .

 

BTW, Joey, in 2002 Sele average 6.1 innings per outing. After that season he had an ERA of over 5 for the next 2 years for the Halos. He was pulled after 5 because he wasn't effective, not because of pitch counts or fixed innings.