Obama Poll

[Vegas Halo Fan]

I could have voted for McCain in 2008 were it not for two things: Dogged adherence to the policies of the previous administration with no discernible changes, and picking Sarah Palin as a running mate (which in reality was nothing more than a lame attempt to try to woo disaffected Hillary voters from the Democratic side). Apparently some within the GOP believed that women would vote for another woman, no matter how inexperienced or idiotic she was.

Edited September 9, 2014 by Vegas Halo Fan

[TobiasFunke]

McCain back in the day was one of our best politicians we had. That all changed when he decided to run for president and had to lick the teats of far right Conservanuts.

[floplag]

I could have voted for McCain in 2008 were it not for two things: Dogged adherence to the policies of the previous administration with no discernible changes, and picking Sarah Palin as a running mate (which in reality was nothing more than a lame attempt to try to woo disaffected Hillary voters from the Democratic side). Apparently some within the GOP believed that women would vote for another woman, no matter how inexperienced or idiotic she was.

 

Regarding the Palin comments, thats exactly what the Dems are counting on in 16 with Hillary as she is far less experienced than even Palin was.

[TobiasFunke]

^ Palin supporter

[mtangelsfan]

Because bombing them isn't offensive enough?

 

Who said I wanted him/her to bomb anyone?  I just want the next prez to not worry about who likes them, or being popular.

[nate]

Hillary is far less experienced than Palin?????  What?

 

Palin is the biggest joke of the last decade.  McCain's campaign felt they needed to go with her for two reasons.  1) She was a woman.  2) she is a neo con nut job.

 

The thing that I really liked about McCain pre presidential run is he almost didn't give a **** about politics.  He truly seemed to only care about getting shit done he believed in.

 

I don't think we need a president that doesn't care about other countries.  We need a pres that doesn't give a shit about politics and party bullshit.  That of course will never happen.

[Adam]

McCain is the worst. 

 

I would vote for Bernie Sanders over McCain

Edited September 9, 2014 by Adam

[Adam]

Hillary is far less experienced than Palin?????  What?

 

Palin is the biggest joke of the last decade.  McCain's campaign felt they needed to go with her for two reasons.  1) She was a woman.  2) she is a neo con nut job.

 

The thing that I really liked about McCain pre presidential run is he almost didn't give a **** about politics.  He truly seemed to only care about getting shit done he believed in.

 

I don't think we need a president that doesn't care about other countries.  We need a pres that doesn't give a shit about politics and party bullshit.  That of course will never happen.

 

A ruse...

[nate]

McCain pisses off a lot of conservatives I notice because he is really liberal on social issues.

[Adam]

He pisses me off because he loves war

[Adam]

And like everyone else, he adjusts his views and positions for votes whenever necessary.

[nate]

That is more current McCain, old school McCain was on the wrong side, politically of a lot of things.

 

He was pro war though, and that is why I voted against him.  Of course it turned out Obama is a spineless loser and continued the same shit.

[floplag]

no, i was not a Palin supporter as i already said who i voted for in that election, but please dont let the facts get in your way.

 

As far as Palin versus Hillary though, Palin had a record of holding office, mostly successfully, and did the job well enough to get that nod as VP, whether you agree with her or not, she at least had a presentable resume.  She wasnt a great candidate for most people, but she at least could point to something as a qualification.

Aside from Hillary sleeping in the white house as first lady and doing a terrible job as Sec State, please, enlighten me as to her long list of qualifications cause i dont see them at all?   Did any of the worls leaders actually respect her or give a damn about her?  would they as president?  Does she have any economic experience?  anything... anything at all, to suggest she would win on the basis of merit and not genitalia?

I'm all for breaking the gender barrier, no issues with it, but doing so for no reason other than doing so is a joke, and it has to be the right woman.  Hillary is not that woman. 

[nate]

Secretary of State is a far higher office in government than governor of Alaska for one thing.  She also was the Jr Senator from NY from 2001-2009.

[floplag]

Secretary of State is a far higher office in government than governor of Alaska for one thing.  She also was the Jr Senator from NY from 2001-2009.

Perhaps true, but governor is the leader, sec state implements someone elses policy... and yeah, the junior senator thing, please list her accomplishments/achievements that were her own in this case?

Seriously, im not being wholly sarcastic, im looking for nay reason to not be terrified of this woman in our highest office as from all i can see this is a disaster waiting to happen and also an inevitability.

[TobiasFunke]

McCain is the worst. 

 

I would vote for Bernie Sanders over McCain

You should because Bernie Sanders is one of our best Congressmen we have

[nate]

Many of our US Presidents were never Governors.

 

And as Secretary of State you get valuable foreign policy experience.

 

I am no Hillary supporter but I would rather have her than Palin, by a mile.

[Adam]

You should because Bernie Sanders is one of our best Congressmen we have

 

lol

 

You're actually probably right. There are probably less than 3 things I'd see eye to eye with him on, but at least he's different. 

[floplag]

Many of our US Presidents were never Governors.

 

And as Secretary of State you get valuable foreign policy experience.

 

I am no Hillary supporter but I would rather have her than Palin, by a mile.

 

true, never said otherwise, but the ye generally have more to count on.

valuable if you are effective, whether or not she was is highly debatable.

in any event the question isnt palin versus hillary, its hillary versus whoever the reps run, and in that case she will win by default and it wont be due to qualifications, but party and gender.

[Tank]

As far as Palin versus Hillary though, Palin had a record of holding office, mostly successfully, and did the job well enough to get that nod as VP, whether you agree with her or not, she at least had a presentable resume.  She wasnt a great candidate for most people, but she at least could point to something as a qualification.

 

Palin lost all credibility with one of the most amazing skits ever done by SNL. there was no way she could ever recover from that, regardless of her record or accomplishments. 

[floplag]

Palin lost all credibility with one of the most amazing skits ever done by SNL. there was no way she could ever recover from that, regardless of her record or accomplishments. 

because SNL should have that kind of effect on people, amirite?

personally i disagree, that skit did nothing unless you already hated her and lets be honest it was fashionable to hate Bush and anything Rep then more than it is now.  

You really think that skit affected anyone that was on the fence?  Or that Biden hasnt had at least as many WTF moments as Palin?

[nate]

I can't believe you are defending her.  She is a total nut job.

 

Just look at the reality shows.

[Crampknees]

Voted for Obama in 2008 an 2012 and will again in 2016.

[floplag]

I can't believe you are defending her.  She is a total nut job.

 

Just look at the reality shows.

 

Please, read carefully.. i am NOT defending her, at all. 

At no time have i defended anything about her in this thread aside from the fact that she did at least have a resume for the job, and the fact that Biden isnt exactly Mensa in comparison.

and reality shows.. really?  you think those are actually real?

[TobiasFunke]

lol

 

You're actually probably right. There are probably less than 3 things I'd see eye to eye with him on, but at least he's different. 

And while he works with both Republicans and Democrats on issues, both parties pretty much hates him (because he's different)

Edited September 10, 2014 by TobiasFunke