Gordon Beckham

[QuinlansMinion]

Howie for Darvish coming up next.

[Angel Oracle]

Beckham hits .309 vs LEFTIES... .349 OBP, .803 OPS.

 

That's why....

 

Ok?

 

That I get, but although in a smaller sample, Green also hits lefties that well.

[Angel Oracle]

not when he's on the DL

True, but also starting a rehab assignment in the next day or so

 

Maybe what Jeff Fletcher said is partly true here, that Aybar's struggles vs. LHP may have also contributed to this.

But hasn't Green also played shortstop, like Beckham has?

[Stradling]

This also could just be a depth move in case someone gets hurt. How many of you would want McDonald starting everyday if we had an injury to either Howie or Freese?

[HaloCory22]

More platoons! YES!

[Angel Oracle]

Turns out the PTBNL is actually a Poster to be named later...

 

AO... you're going to Chicago after the season.

Yes!  Yes!  Yes!       Pizzaria Due!   Chicago Chop House!    Parthenon!    Etc.!

[Angels]

Beckham's career numbers:

Vs lefties: .245/.313/.375 wRC+ of 84

Vs righties: .244/.304/.373 wRC+ 81

His numbers against lefties this year is not his true talent and it's inflated by a flukey BABIP.

Beckham is no answer to anything

[T.G.]

Yes!  Yes!  Yes!       Pizzaria Due!   Chicago Chop House!    Parthenon!    Etc.!

Glad you're taking the news so well... you know it's not personal... it's just business.

[Pablo]

Please say Dipoto isn't going to pull a Cespedes and trade Howie for a pitcher.

Cespedes > Howie.  Maybe not apples to oranges, but in the ballpark.

 

But realistically, no way Gordon fills Howies shoes.  Most GDP in one season is 12; Howie has 5 straight years beating that!

[T.G.]

Kay clarifies that the Angels will send a PTBNL or cash considerations to the White Sox in exchange for Beckham, not both, as he initially announced (Twitter link).

 

 

so that means that we either send AO to Chicago or we take up a collection here on AW to keep him and send cash.

[Tank]

i think it's a move before a move. i would hate to see them trade howie at this stage of what has been such a great season, and where howie has been a big contributor, but i understand that pitching matters most in the playoffs and they may feel like their hand is forced to get someone.

 

beckham used to beat the snot out of us when he first came up. dreaded seeing him walk in the box because it seemed like he just owned us. but he's dropped way off from that first year or two and is now just a spare part.

[Pablo]

@JeffFletcherOCR: Since you're all asking, I don't think the #Angels are trading Kendrick for a SP. No SP good enough to be worth Kendrick gets thru waivers

Brings up a question I have (and I should no better) - My understanding is that most teams put a large number of players through waivers right after the July 31 trade deadline; just to have the flexibility of trading.  Wouldn't that apply here?  Or does a player have to re-clear waivers after a trade is agreed to?  If so, why the pointless exercise on Aug 1?

[SoWhat]

I don't get the bitching over this. They're paying him less than a mill and will most likely be non tendered in the offseason. He probably won't help much, but there's no risk in the move

[HaloCory22]

Can he pitch?

[John Smith]

This could also be for next year. Howie will have to be traded this winter, at the latest, as Angels need that money for a starting pitcher.

[Turd Ferguson]

I don't think this has any bearing on Howie.  I think it means Green could be gone soon.

[Oz27]

I would have put acquiring another infielder who can't play shortstop literally at the bottom of things we needed.

 

The only way I understand this is if they've now decided Green is adequate enough at shortstop to cover for Aybar and we finally DFA McDonald, with Beckham being the guy who replaces Freese late in games.

[Angel Oracle]

Except that Beckham has very rarely played anything besides 2B at the MLB level.

There has to be some DHing for him vs. lefties.   Although again, Green also excelled against them so far, granted in less at bats.

Edited August 21, 2014 by Angel Oracle

[Stradling]

I would have put acquiring another infielder who can't play shortstop literally at the bottom of things we needed.

The only way I understand this is if they've now decided Green is adequate enough at shortstop to cover for Aybar and we finally DFA McDonald, with Beckham being the guy who replaces Freese late in games.

Oz, I am asking this because I know you live in Australia, but how many games do you watch? For someone that is very knowledgeable about the sport, I am surprised how quickly you dismiss McDonalds value to the team from a defensive standpoint. I expect that kind of talk from some of the kids on here that still think that the only way a player contributes is with the bat. McDonald is an awesome defensive player that I am more than comfortable with in his current role. Now if Beckham is here and he gets some starts at third or at second, I am totally fine with that. But there is room for both in my opinion. There is still room for Green as well.

[DoubleOffTheWall]

How does Beckham's ability to hit lefties in Aybar's place make sense, when Beckham is a 2B? Perhaps from the 3B but even then, Freese has been playing much better as of late.

[Stradling]

One other thing to keep in mind, is remember we did have Albert play a few innings at 3rd base in a game this year. This move helps make sure that doesn't have to happen again. It also allows us to pinch hit for McDonald late in a game after he is brought in for defensive purposes, if something happens where the lead has been given up.

[Chuck]

I'm sorry, but Howie Kendrick is overhyped. 

 

He will be dealt for a SP in the offseason and Beckham and Green will fight for the starting 2B position. 

 

That's all folks. 

[James]

Overhyped by who?

[m0nkey]

Beckham, if he's kept, is going to make more than 4.1 million next year.  Sure he's cheaper, but he's not the answer at second if they trade kendrick

[Angelsfirst]

I'm sorry, but Howie Kendrick is overhyped.

He will be dealt for a SP in the offseason and Beckham and Green will fight for the starting 2B position.

That's all folks.

This. If Howie can be dealt for anything remotely close to value I'm all for it. At this point the value of pitching FAR outweighs the value of a light hitting 2nd basemen who tends to fold under pressure.