Is Weaver hurt?

[nate]

His velocity on his fastball is down to 85-86 and he is constantly missing location.

 

Right now he isn't even looking like a #3 pitcher.

[bloodbrother]

The fact is that stuff wise, he's the worst starter of the bunch. His pitchability/command are what put him above the rest but so far he doesn't even have that right now

[Tyler]

Dude is just running out of gas. You hear him talking on those Angels weekly shows, the one where he is golfing with the hottie, and he knows his time is almost up.

[Angel Oracle]

Weaver = Hamilton's HR Derby pitcher

[mancini79]

This is the problem with Weaver. When he's not hitting his location, he's going to get in trouble. What is interesting is that he's only given up 4 hits. So it's a combination of "some" bad luck and missed locations.

[Homebrewer]

Weave is super competitive. I have to think that he is experiencing the ST dead arm thing...just delayed a week or so.

He went deep a lot in ST and he isn't used to it. In Weaves case, it might have backfired on Sosh with Weave, going 100+ pitches in ST didn't work for him.

[CaliAngel]

Games like today are only going to make him more competitive.

 

Will that result in better outings? Who knows, but I hope so!

[Broad Street]

May be an ignorant question... But would Tommy John surgery help someone get their velocity back? I'm not saying do that or anything, just curious...

[Docwaukee]

May be an ignorant question... But would Tommy John surgery help someone get their velocity back? I'm not saying do that or anything, just curious...

no.  it's his shoulder and not his elbow. 

[Homebrewer]

That would be like having a kidney transplant on a functioning kidney.

[jsnpritchett]

That would be like having a kidney transplant on a functioning kidney.

 

It would be more like having a kidney transplant on a malfunctioning lung.

[Homebrewer]

It would be more like having a kidney transplant on a malfunctioning lung.

lol...yep

 

And shoulder surgery is almost always a career ender for a pitcher of Weaves age.

[bloodbrother]

Yikes, $20 mill for Weav in 2016

[Stradling]

At least they're paying him for what he did as an Angel. He will be over paid but he has been underpaid in the past.

[Jason]

Yikes, $20 mill for Weav in 2016

If he makes it that long. He's going downhill quickly

[Stradling]

I don't think he's hurt he had a couple pitches at 89 today, he was just up in the zone and obviously catching too much of the plate.

[bloodbrother]

I was just surprised. For some reason I thought his deal was up after 2015.

 

I worry about how much he has left in the tank in that shoulder of his. He's commented about how it's bothered him for the past few years but to his credit he's been durable thus far. If that shoulder gives out though, it's a killer for him and for the team. Shoulder woes are hard for pitchers to overcome. Johan Santana is done because of it and Halladay retired because of it this past offseason

 

I'll just say I'm not worried about him this season, not yet. I don't think he's hurt. He just hasn't had his pinpoint control/command so far in the early going. He needs that to get by these days and normally he has it, but it hasn't been there so far. He gets the Mets his next time out I think right? If he struggles vs that weak lineup, then I may start to get a bit more concerned

Edited April 6, 2014 by bloodbrother

[Docwaukee]

Yikes, $20 mill for Weav in 2016

Even with Weaver taking a discount it just proves that almost all long term contracts pretty much suck.  Granted, I wouldn't have it any other way with Weave. 

 

I also think we need to take a step back from the ledge for a second as well.  His second start last year (@ Texas) he got pounded as well.  He had 2 starts where he gave up 5er last year.  One where he gave up 9, and 4 where he gave up 4 and he still ended the year with an era in the low 3's. 

 

He had a 4.0era on the road last year.  Houston is a bandbox etc.

 

Today's start doesn't mean anything more or less than some of his rough road starts meant last year. 

 

He's gonna end up with an era in the mid 3's and on any given day he can still dominate more that most pitchers.  It's just scary to all of us because he throws 85mph

[Angel Oracle]

Did all 4 HRs go over that ridiculously close straightaway LF fence?

Edited April 6, 2014 by Angel Oracle

[Docwaukee]

Did all 4 HRs go over that ridiculously close straightaway LF fence?

they did, but they were all no doubters. 

[Brent Maguire]

Did all 4 HRs go over that ridiculously close straightaway LF fence?

The last one by Presley went over the RCF wall but Castro, Dominguez and Guzman all pretty much crushed their home runs. 

[NrM]

Definitely concerned considering the Mariners and Astros offense is probably at the bottom of the AL.

This should've been 2 easy outings for Weaver.

[Ohtaniland]

Did all 4 HRs go over that ridiculously close straightaway LF fence?

 

That ridiculously close LF fence stood in the same spot for both teams.

[Angel Oracle]

Pujols couldn't hit a HR in the old Polo Grounds down the LF line.

[gurn67]

Pujols couldn't hit a HR in the old Polo Grounds down the LF line.

Pujols would hit a ground ball to third at Williamsport right now.