And so it begins: Sean Burnett

[Marsaka]

He may have had a track record of nagging innings before we signed him, but in the three years prior to us signing him, which I think I would consider a good trend, he averaged 70 appearances a year. So I don't blame him for signing him at all.

 

he wasnt going to be a free agent those 3 years so for all we know he tough'd it out in order to con the angels.  that seems to be a recurring thing for this organization.

[jshep]

he wasnt going to be a free agent those 3 years so for all we know he tough'd it out in order to con the angels.  that seems to be a recurring thing for this organization.

 

uhhh...this is a joke, right?

[nate]

uhhh...this is a joke, right?

 

Of course, it is easy man.  He pitched really well while hurt then go to the Angels and became a puss and shut it down.

[Marsaka]

Of course, it is easy man.  He pitched really well while hurt then go to the Angels and became a puss and shut it down.

 

lol ya it was a joke, some of you need to lighten up..

[EDinTUSTIN]

Where do we get the physicals done before we sign these guys? 

 

Earl Scheib?

LOL

 

$99, any arm, any time.

Edited January 17, 2014 by EDinTUSTIN

[Stradling]

he wasnt going to be a free agent those 3 years so for all we know he tough'd it out in order to con the angels. that seems to be a recurring thing for this organization.

This place boggles my mind at times. So, now that we determined that he was relatively healthy prior to coming to the Angels, are you now ok with Dipoto signing him?

[Marsaka]

This place boggles my mind at times. So, now that we determined that he was relatively healthy prior to coming to the Angels, are you now ok with Dipoto signing him?

 

his past showed he was an injury risk, i dont know how you can say he was "relatively healthy."  i'm not saying dipoto should be able to predict the future, but i think the entire organization needs to stop relying on free agents and build their farm.  

 

im fine for signing burnett, but due to his injury risk i would have put less years/money or some type of clause to protect the team.  not give him full guaranteed money and years like dipoto did.

[Stradling]

I can say he was relatively healthy because for the three years prior to joining the Angels he pitched 70 times a year out of the pen. That is tough to do while being injured or on the DL. I agree that they need to build the farm, no one, not a single person on this forum believes that the Angels should continue drafting poorly. I will say this as it relates to Dipoto and the bullpen, his first draft he drafted a CRAZY amount of bullpen arms, so even he agrees with you Marsaka. What the Angels won't do anytime soon is rebuild, so they will still be aggressive in free agency until they are back in the playoffs.

[gurn67]

I would say fire the trainer, but didn't Arte do that already?

[Inside Pitch]

I would say fire the trainer, but didn't Arte do that already?

 

Why would you fire the trainer when the Angels signed him when he couldn't even throw a baseball?   That's like buying a car with no motor for your wife and then filing for divorce when it won't start.

[Marsaka]

I can say he was relatively healthy because for the three years prior to joining the Angels he pitched 70 times a year out of the pen. That is tough to do while being injured or on the DL. I agree that they need to build the farm, no one, not a single person on this forum believes that the Angels should continue drafting poorly. I will say this as it relates to Dipoto and the bullpen, his first draft he drafted a CRAZY amount of bullpen arms, so even he agrees with you Marsaka. What the Angels won't do anytime soon is rebuild, so they will still be aggressive in free agency until they are back in the playoffs.

 

From a 2012 article:

 

Burnett has been a mainstay in the Nationals bullpen since they acquired him in a trade with the Pirates midway through the 2009 season. This season, Burnett posted a 2.38 ERA in 70 appearances over 56 2/3 innings. He pitched like an all-star candidate in the first half, and in the second half he pitched with a bone spur in his left elbow that required surgery shortly after the season.

 

A different article also from 2012:

 

Though he had a strong season in 2012, Burnett also had injury issues in 2012. The left-hander experienced tightness in his elbow in July which he said he'd been dealing with for six weeks and he missed time in September with what was described then as nerve irritation in his left elbow. After holding opposing hitters to a .231/.272/.350 line in the first half of the year, opposing hitters had a .298/.345/.385 line against the lefty in the second half of the 2012 season. Burnett pitched just twice in the NLDS with St. Louis, giving up three hits a walk and four runs, three earned in Game 2 before coming back to retire one batter in Game 5 with the Cardinals.

Before Game 4 of the series, Nats' skipper Davey Johnson admitted that Burnett, "... did have a little discomfort toward the end of the season and then he was up and pretty straight in the game that I brought him in, last game in St. Louis." When the season was over, Burnett had surgery to remove bone spurs from his left elbow. Earlier in his career, Burnett had Tommy John surgery in 2004, four years after the Pittsburgh Pirates had selected him 19th overall in the 1st Round of the 2000 Draft. Johnson told MLB Network Radio hosts Jim Bowden and Casey Stern in an interview a few weeks back, "I hope we get Sean Burnett back."

Will the Nationals give Burnett a multi-year deal to keep him in the bullpen in 2013 and beyond? Should they? What other options do the Nats have this winter?

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judging by his second half of 2012 it already looked like he was damaged goods.  

[Second Base]

I am concerned, and yet this doesn't surprise me in the least.  How else can you explain why the Angels went out and acquired every LHP they could get their hands on and held onto the rest?  Rapada, Moran, Boshers, Carson, Maronde, Roth, Santiago, Skaggs, Taylor and Sisk.  Dipoto and staff knew there was something seriously wrong with Burnett after he got hurt the first time and have been stockpiling lefties ever since. 

 

The way I see it playing out, the Angels will sign Garza, slot Skaggs as the 5th starter, move Santiago to the pen to essentially fill Burnett's 7th inning role and use Moran as the lefty specialist with Rapada, Carson, Maronde, Roth, Taylor, Boshers and Sisk in AAA/AA.

[Docwaukee]

he's just going thru a dead arm phase. 

[JAHV76]

I hope he can come back and stay healthy this team has had their fair share of china dolls already.

[Quinlanforthewin]

Another scenario is if Skaggs looks good in ST and we sign Garza, Santiago could be a Scott Shields type and give us two innings every other game out of the bullpen. He has knock out stuff.

 

Santiago is too good to come out of the pen.  Dude is a stud I think.  Rather see Skaggs in AAA if we sign garza and have him come up if someone struggles or gets hurt. 

[Guest]

News today on MLB Network is that Ryan Madson will be holding a work out for scouts in February.   Watch him get a contract not to pitch for the third straight year.

Naw, watch him sign with TB and have an 0.86 ERA

[Guest]

Maybe Sean Burnett was probably too busy slapping his rally monkey last season?...it could explain all the constant arm problems.

I hope we get Balfour.

[Vegas Halo Fan]

Man.  How does a guy have a track record like him, then once on the Angels just completely implodes.

 

I believe it is written into the CBA between the players and owners. If you sign with the Angels, you must thereafter suck.

[Ohtaniland]

 

[Hollyw00d]

I'm not concerned. Frieri, DDLR, Smith are solid. Rapada and Moran should be good replacements as southpaws out of the pen.

you're not concerned about a bullpen that has consistently been one of the worst in the AL the past 4+ seasons?

[YouthofToday]

Wow. Check your self before you wreck... Burnett was an excellent gamble at the time. A chance that should have been taken.

[Guest]

"I just made a huge mistake."

[Docwaukee]

I'd like to introduce two guys you will rarely see pitch and two guy you would like to rarely see pitch. 

[Guest]

Wow. Check your self before you wreck... Burnett was an excellent gamble at the time. A chance that should have been taken.

It was a fairly big gamble, though. Burnett was damaged goods and this was well known. It became even more of a gamble because of all the other "gambles" the FO signed last offseason were also overpriced, irreparable damaged goods.

$9.5M down the drain.

Edited January 18, 2014 by failos

[HaloNation]

dipoto failed so hard with madson,blanton and burnett

 

i could have done a better job (yes srs)

 

 

oh lol i totally didn't mention blanton

 

 

hahahahaaa

Edited January 18, 2014 by HaloNation