Not signing Beltre was the turning point

[The God of Runs]

of this team no longer becoming a serious contender.  2010, the year was over with Kendrys going down.  Reagins and company fail in getting Beltre even though it was a position of need and he had a great year with the Red Sox.  Beltre goes on to be a high .800-.900 OPS player with the Rangers.  Reagins makes a panic move and trades for Vernon Wells.  Napoli ends up in Texas and goes out and leads them to the World Series.  If Reagins signs Beltre, we don't trade Napoli.  Pretty good chance we make the playoffs.  2012, Reagins sticks around and doesn't make any drastic changes cause they had a good year previous.  So, the team doesn't sign Pujols, then Trout takes it from there. 

[Chuck]

Second worst non move in the last decade to not trading for Miguel Cabrera. 

 

To think the hold up was having Brandon Wood and Howie Kendrick in the same deal.. lol

[Scott34]

Can anyone find the article that said that Beltre didn't sign with us because Reagins refused to have dinner with him and Boras?

 

Or did I make that up?

[19HALO71]

Hindsight is 20/20.

 

If I recall correctly, Beltre was signed for 6/90. At that time he had just come off a terrible contract by the Dodgers and gave no signs of turning his career around. Yes, looking at his numbers now, it appears that we should have signed him. But nobody wanted him based on what he had previously done to the Dodgers.

[ScottT]

I wanted the Angels to sign Beltre.

 

Did Beltre want to sign with the Angels?

[Scott34]

Hindsight is 20/20.

 

If I recall correctly, Beltre was signed for 6/90. At that time he had just come off a terrible contract by the Dodgers and gave no signs of turning his career around. Yes, looking at his numbers now, it appears that we should have signed him. But nobody wanted him based on what he had previously done to the Dodgers.

 

None of that is correct.

[m0nkey]

Plenty of people wanted beltre

[Richard]

I wanted the Angels to sign Beltre.

 

Did Beltre want to sign with the Angels?

 

 

Gammons said it in an interview after the Angels signed Pujols that he(Beltre) was begging the Angels to sign him. 

 

 

http://wapc.mlb.com/play/?content_id=20024525&query=gammons%2Bpujols

[Richard]

That video is depressing to watch. 

[HaloNation]

i always liked beltre

[Amazing Larry]

There were a lot of people on this board who wanted him signed as an Angel.

I'll admit that I wasn't one of them though. I thought he was a juicer. I thought his stats would decline. I was wrong.

[stevestevens]

wrong on his stats declining or him being a juicer?

[Eric]

You guys are now bemoaning not signing a guy who's nicknames have alternated between "Contract Year" and "One Nut"?

 

How far Angels fans have fallen in a desperate search to try to identify why this team sucks.

[ScottT]

Gammons said it in an interview after the Angels signed Pujols that he(Beltre) was begging the Angels to sign him. 

 

 

http://wapc.mlb.com/play/?content_id=20024525&query=gammons%2Bpujols

 

I'm now convinced that Adrian Beltre begged the Angels to sign him.  Seriously.  I'm not joking.    

[FabulousFabregas]

I wanted Beltre, I thought at worst he'd at least be somewhere in between Seattle Beltre and Boston Beltre here.  The key was he was a 3B, a gaping hole we've had since Glaus left after 2004.  Instead we overpaid for Pujols and Hamilton when we had an abundance of depth at 1B and in the outfield.

[Jason]

I'm with Chuck on Cabrera. I remember that one of the biggest concerns was that he was not in shape and was a drunk. I'd welcome Homer Simpson if he could hit that way.

[tomsred]

You guys realize that virtually every team in the major leagues can go through this exercise, right?  Hindsight is the easiest thing in the world to apply.  None of that matters now, it's what the team does starting tomorrow that counts.  The power shifts constantly in baseball, you can analyze the past all you want, but I hope this organization is only dealing with the future and they have a solid overall plan in place.

[Halos of Anaheim]

Hindsight is 20/20.

 

If I recall correctly, Beltre was signed for 6/90. At that time he had just come off a terrible contract by the Dodgers and gave no signs of turning his career around. Yes, looking at his numbers now, it appears that we should have signed him. But nobody wanted him based on what he had previously done to the Dodgers.

Wrong. He came off of a bad contract from the Mariners, then had a breakout year with the Red Sox in 2010. Everybody knows Beltre juiced in 2004 for his contract year, but the question is what did he start taking at age 30? He's been a top 10 hitter in baseball since then. 

[gurn67]

The way things have been going with this franchise, Beltre would have come here and been Gary Gaetti part 2.

[ScottT]

Hindsight is an overused term by some. Many wanted the Angels to sign Beltre.  

 

On the other hand, I'd like to see some legitimate, intelligent, posts about how the Angels were going to be a terrible product or team this season.

[ScottT]

Let's be fair, though.  Those that wanted to sign Beltre didn't expect 3-4 years in a row that would be better than all but of one his previous seasons.  He was good, but you couldn't have expected him to improve and maintain it for several years. Maintaining his production for that long was unlikely.

[Docwaukee]

Didn't want him.  Thought he was the type of guy that would play for a contract.  I was dead wrong. 

 

Not signing him could have easily ended right there though. 

[Docwaukee]

You guys realize that virtually every team in the major leagues can go through this exercise, right?  Hindsight is the easiest thing in the world to apply.  None of that matters now, it's what the team does starting tomorrow that counts.  The power shifts constantly in baseball, you can analyze the past all you want, but I hope this organization is only dealing with the future and they have a solid overall plan in place.

tomorrow?  we have an off day

[Brandon]

There were a lot of people on this board who wanted him signed as an Angel.

I'll admit that I wasn't one of them though. I thought he was a juicer. I thought his stats would decline. I was wrong.

He actually does juice, but has an exemption from MLB. He takes synthetic testosterone because he has one nut. Not sure of the dosage, but he is pretty muscular.

[tomsred]

tomorrow?  we have an off day

Oh good, then we can have a all day team meeting.