How the Rangers fell apart

[Lazorko Saves]

13 hours ago, Swordsman78 said:

Except you, since you have posted here 3 times in less than 11 hours, and most likely clicked on the thread many more times to get info.

Yeah, let's see how many more times we can get @jsnpritchett (aka Overly Attached S--tposter) to post in this thread that he hates.

[ten ocho recon scout]

We're all focused on out own shitshow, which we should be. But the Rangers collapse is pretty crazy.

And the Mets / Padres still baffle me.

At least when you look at the Angels you see major injuries, not garden variety ones. No idea how these other teams struggled so much with the talent they have.

Padres offense is hard to explain.

[AngelsLakersFan]

Incredible how this season has ended up playing out almost exactly as I said it would back at the end of May. 

[arch stanton]

Bochy teams only win in even numbered years

[Stradling]

Bochy is a HOF manager. Nevin will be a guy that Angel fans will remember as a guy who used to be a manager. 

[TheLordofOuts]

Do the Rangers play the Buttercup song at any time between innings in their home stadium?

[jsnpritchett]

The Rangers are on their way to winning their 6th in a row since this thread was started.

[AngelFanInTheATL]

On 9/8/2023 at 2:57 PM, TroutField said:

Yup, the season full of what could have been… 

 

the pieces were there, but luck, injuries, and depth…. 

If you don't have depth, then no, the pieces are not there.

[Dtwncbad]

[Dtwncbad]

Comparing Bochy to Nevin is a little silly.

It would only make sense to compare Bochy to the greatest manager the Angels have ever had, Mike Scioscia.

Bochy won four times as many pennants and three times as many World Series as Scioscia.

But sure, let’s double down on the idea that Bochy is nothing special to facilitate the agenda that Phil Nevin IS special.

Wow.

 

[Taylor]

11 hours ago, jsnpritchett said:

The Rangers are on their way to winning their 6th in a row since this thread was started.

Like clockwork. Good work, AW

[jsnpritchett]

10-4 now since this was posted and they're back in first place.

[Blarg]

On 9/8/2023 at 11:23 AM, Swordsman78 said:

Nice work Bochy.  Given every tool available, huge lead in the West,  and poof.

Nice work @Swordsman78, being a tool and this thread blows up in your face. 

[khouse]

On 9/15/2023 at 6:37 AM, AngelFanInTheATL said:

If you don't have depth, then no, the pieces are not there.

It's the problem that I have with Perry in that he didn't truly address the lack of depth until this year...his third as GM. Which, is sadly telling and pretty indefensible with names like Lagares, Wade, Suzuki, Gosselin, Duffy, Velasquez and a host of duds including DFA/waiver wire/past-their-prime castoffs like Eaton, Schebler, and a few others. So, in his first 2 years, Perry simply ignored the depth problem or, as these hack pick-ups suggest, didn't take it very seriously at all. Then, this season he signs better pieces like...Drury who has shown he was a good pick-up who will, hopefully, be even better next year after playing with the team this season. So, point being...how much better would this team have been this year if Perry would have been more serious in adding a couple, more competent pieces (even one not named Velasquez) in his first year and then a couple (or even one) more in his second? I mean, whereas I do understand/appreciate the excitement surrounding the potential of O'Hoppe, Neto, & Schanuel it's, honestly tough for me to get too overly optimistic when the GM can't/has yet to explain how an equally promising/rushed group of 2022 pitchers regressed so badly this season...

[Taylor]

4 hours ago, jsnpritchett said:

10-4 now since this was posted and they're back in first place.

How the Rangers fell apart got their groove back

[Blarg]

20 minutes ago, khouse said:

It's the problem that I have with Perry in that he didn't truly address the lack of depth until this year...his third as GM. Which, is sadly telling and pretty indefensible with names like Lagares, Wade, Suzuki, Gosselin, Duffy, Velasquez and a host of duds including DFA/waiver wire/past-their-prime castoffs like Eaton, Schebler, and a few others. So, in his first 2 years, Perry simply ignored the depth problem or, as these hack pick-ups suggest, didn't take it very seriously at all. Then, this season he signs better pieces like...Drury who has shown he was a good pick-up who will, hopefully, be even better next year after playing with the team this season. So, point being...how much better would this team have been this year if Perry would have been more serious in adding a couple, more competent pieces (even one not named Velasquez) in his first year and then a couple (or even one) more in his second? I mean, whereas I do understand/appreciate the excitement surrounding the potential of O'Hoppe, Neto, & Schanuel it's, honestly tough for me to get too overly optimistic when the GM can't/has yet to explain how an equally promising/rushed group of 2022 pitchers regressed so badly this season...

When you look at all those players you listed, they were on the roster because there was nothing in the minor leagues to promote. Eppler left him with a talent shortage that doesn't magically cure itself in one draft.

You really want to hold him accountable for patching 9 holes on the bench and lineup in his first year with a limited budget?

How about a repeat in the second year where he had almost the same cycle of holes not supported by the minors but he stuck with guys like Ward and Walsh. 

Minasian is pulling rabbits out of a hat but the hat is only so big. His owner was going to sell the team and he still pieced together a competitive roster until the dominos started to fall and the injuries out paced the available minor league talent. But he did do a damn good job putting the pieces in place. 

I'm starting to see an actual team imerge out of the rubble of the last eight years. The owner could fuck it all up by dumping Minasian and his people, he could also fuck it up demanding another expensive free agent.

Or... shit gets back on track and the roster becomes 3/4 home grown instead of mercenaries. 

 

[Tank]

1 hour ago, Blarg said:

I'm starting to see an actual team imerge out of the rubble of the last eight years. The owner could fuck it all up by dumping Minasian and his people, he could also fuck it up demanding another expensive free agent.

Or... shit gets back on track and the roster becomes 3/4 home grown instead of mercenaries. 

i vote for the last option.

get er' done, perry!

[jsnpritchett]

2 hours ago, Taylor said:

How the Rangers fell apart got their groove back

They won again today after I posted the update.  They now have a 2.5 game lead in the West and the 3rd-best run differential in the AL. 

Just a brilliant thread all around. 

[Dtwncbad]

6 minutes ago, jsnpritchett said:

They won again today after I posted the update.  They now have a 2.5 game lead in the West and the 3rd-best run differential in the AL. 

Just a brilliant thread all around. 

But but but Nevin is really special.

[Ender]

7 hours ago, Blarg said:

Nice work @Swordsman78, being a tool and this thread blows up in your face. 

I hate this man.

[Swordsman78]

On 9/9/2023 at 12:41 PM, Lazorko Saves said:

Yeah, let's see how many more times we can get @jsnpritchett (aka Overly Attached S--tposter) to post in this thread that he hates.

So far we are up to +3.  LOL

[Angel Oracle]

Since falling to 76-64 (36-44 since the 40-20 start) and falling 3 games back in 3rd place, the Rangers are 11-4 and are now 2.5 games in front.

Playing best baseball when needing it, and now positioning for a first round bye

Edited September 25, 2023 by Angel Oracle

[Jay]

I think we can all agree that Minasian has made some good picks. So I would want to retain him.

But to me it seems like the org is lacking strong leadership.

I would bump Minasian down into an assistant GM role where he can focus on drafts/acquisitions/player personnel and have him report to someone else in the GM/POBO role.

 

[Ace-Of-Diamonds]

On 9/15/2023 at 4:37 AM, AngelFanInTheATL said:

If you don't have depth, then no, the pieces are not there.

we needed depth to cover our depth, because in February we seemed to have plenty of depth

[Blarg]

1 hour ago, Jay said:

I think we can all agree that Minasian has made some good picks. So I would want to retain him.

But to me it seems like the org is lacking strong leadership.

I would bump Minasian down into an assistant GM role where he can focus on drafts/acquisitions/player personnel and have him report to someone else in the GM/POBO role.

 

According to a recent article they are paying him assistant GM money so to think they are picking up anyone for a higher ranking role is wishful thinking.